(02-03-2015, 08:49 PM)Rodent Wrote: The Order, On the other hand is a xenophobic paranoid entity. Xenophobic stems from their hatred of the Nomads and all works related to them. Paranoia means they'll see those works pretty much anywhere. Pretty easy to see why they'd act irrationally towards allies now that I've spelled it out like that, yeah? Additionally, The Order is also pretty strapped for resources, manpower...you name it. They would not want to lose a fairly reliable supplier and a historically good arrangement.
One of the most accurate descriptions I've seen about Order for a while, yet if Order would really be like this, it would have died off long ago. Simply, if you lack the resources to properly carry out your goal, then limitless paranoia is a luxury you can't afford, you can't risk hitting one of your cashcows in one bold move, because who knows what the other supporters will think of you and your reliability, stability, etc.
(02-03-2015, 08:55 PM)RedEclipse Wrote: All of the time of being thee official factions OSI/TAZ/(ZTC-Omicroners-Phoenix) we had different policy and different view on same things.
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Zoners are different to each other. That's the point why we has own IDs for long time, to rule own diplomacy and choose how to develop it.
The only problem with this is that the ID is not enough. In order to have complete control over your own diplomacy you also need separate IFFs, because as long as you share the same one, by game mechanics you will be the same entity. As far as I know that's one of the reasons why all Zoners became red to Order, or rather, Order became red to the Zoner IFF.
And with this we are pretty much at the root of all problems around Zoners. It is simply a faction designed to be a Generic one, and then treated like a Non-Generic one, got lore and shipline slapped onto it and everybody considered them one single cohesive entity, "Zoners", while everybody forgot/ignored that folks scattered around Sirius will be able to function as such no better than a union between Haiti, Hungary and Madagascar would. There is nothing wrong with TAZ, OSI and ZTC/Omicroners/Phoenix functioning like separate entities with their own diplomacy. What was wrong all along is that they shared the same ID for long, and what is still an issue is that they still share the same IFF. And years passed like this. How come nobody ever thought that Zoners might be no more than edge-world freelancers, and the official Zoner factions are just factions developing their own stuff from a Generic ID?