.:j:. Junker Congress Faction Feedback

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I'm not here to appease any individual's warped sense of realism - I'm here to get some answers from the Congress (preferably from their leadership who are supposed to be responsible for the faction) regarding why they're distorting facts and accusing LibGov of powergaming, along with overall negative criticism of the handling of their roleplay.

"Warped Realisim"
OK the problem that was being discussed was whether it was realistic for a gun to be in a courtroom. IE realism. Since realism is an issue I thought it appropriate to point out how realism was tossed into the wind by the raid conducted. That actually leads to this idea that a group is using personal dislike to control in game activity and thus working outside RP. My suggestion that the government (for the time being) would gloss over the issue somehow (like by fining congress) is likely the outcome would be knowledge a quasi-criminal organization would have. The tone of this situation makes it seem like there is something more personal than RP at work here. I believe that is why the Congress feels there is some power gaming issue here.

You criticise the actions of the Forces of Liberty because they are unrealistic by your standards, when such realism is in fact highly subjective in this context. Therefore, your complaint carries very little weight. It would be appreciated if you were to stop avoiding the criticisms of the Congress being presented (assuming you are both a member of Congress and are defending the faction), and if you have concerns of your own regading a different faction, you should raise them in the appropriate thread, such as that faction's own feedback thread.

"You criticise the actions of the Forces of Liberty because they are unrealistic by your standards, when such realism is in fact highly subjective in this context." No you miss my point. I am trying to make the same point as you. How can you criticize the 'realistic-ness' of an action in an RP game? IE guns in a courtroom? Now if Liberty wants to actually retro write a specific law against carrying a weapon into a courtroom then we can remove said post(s) and move on.

Actually, you were the first person to raise the concept of realism; I am not here to demand realism, only response to criticism and acknowledgement of consequences. Your are either explicitly or implicitly distracting from the core criticisms at hand; any argument that relies on a logical fallacy is not worth paying attention to. In fact, in my previous post I identified how concerns regarding other factions should be handled (ie. not in this thread).

This is a feedback thread. Yes, feedback is being given but quite a bit of this is player vs player and the Congress Feedback page isn't the right place for it. If you want to do that, take it to skype. Quite a few posts have been made invised.

I actually find the above words very wise and reasonable, and i hope some will read it again and again.
This thread is on it's way to be the "Feedback for Disco Factions?" .. I'm sure there is a way to handle this
thread better than that ladies and gentlemen.

regards,
Xenon

If the concerns and criticisms being raised about the Congress in this thread were invalid, the staff would have already issued censure. I myself as a moderator can see whose posts have been edited (to remove insults or flaming) or whose posts have been deleted for being off-topic (eg. ad-hominem attacks that bear little relevance to the discussion at hand). The majority of posts so far have not required staff intervention, which should make it clear to you that most of the behaviour so far in this thread has been acceptable.

Attempting to leverage the threat of moderation is no excuse to bury your head in the sand.