' Wrote:Well, ask them to report the player in question. Or ask them to send you SS and make a reputation change request or a capital ship removal request.
The example is moot since factions can dictate who can and cannot participate in events.
Nooblet there is a problem with your reasoning here. Have you ever tried to organize an official event? If not I'll tell you, it's a pain in the ass. You have a couple dozen people you have organize and coordinate with and make sure everyone is there (which they never are), and then there is the hour of skype calls and pm's calling in the people that forgot or are late. Then when your event finally gets started and random indies start showing up and ruining it, it's FAR too late to do something about it.
By that point the event is already ruined, hours of work and days or even weeks of waiting ruined. Sure you can report them and they get a slap on the wrist. Big deal. It's kicking an already dead horse.
Say what you want about official factions already having enough power, that's nonsense. Right now any official faction in game is outnumbered at least 3 to 1 by indies in game at any given moment. Some will cooperate with RP, most will not. Usually the indies that do cooperate are ones that are also in official factions, like yourself, or me, or others that have been around a while and have both idies and official faction characters.
As leader of the Black Dragon Society I will use my faction as an example here. What exactly can you do as a Hogosha indie that you aren't allowed to do as a Black Dragon? Where are the benefits to being an indie? Cause I sure can't see them. The Black Dragons are a pretty laid back faction, we have very few RP restrictions on anything our players can and can't do. The restrictions we have are nothing more than the ones an indie would have due to RP. Secondly, all those indies usually provide nothing except chaos. They can't be called on easily for help when Kusari is under attack, when you do manage to call them in most of them don't listen to orders in battle which is needed for any hope of success. As indies they have no easy method of asking RP questions when they come up against a situation that they don't know how to handle so mistakes get made and they end up getting sanctions for things that could easily be avoided. All this and many more are reasons for why they should join the official faction.
' Wrote:To be quite blunt, I would like to know why official faction players want more control of independent players. Are you insecure? Or is it just jealousy that they can trade for the credits and you cannot?
Call it what you like nooblet, call me a person that has no power in real life so I need this to get my rocks off ordering people around in game. Call me insecure, call me a child... All the typical responses to official factions wanting more "power". Frankly I get tired of the old indie/faction debate. Every time this kind of issue is raised for factions, you and a select few other players go on a rampage to prevent it. Why? I don't know. Seems to me that I'm not the one with authority issues here.
I have nothing against indies in particular. I have a lot of indie characters myself. And sure there is an appeal to it, you have no boss, no one to give you orders, no one to answer to. You go where you want and do what you want and only have to answer to yourself and the admins. However, indies to lack one huge issue. A sense of community. They usually don't hang out with friends and work together to accomplish goals. There is no pride in promoting the goals and deeds of "[insert tag here]". Most indies fly around alone or with one other person and do what they will. Sure there is a place for that. But the factions need more love too.