Quote:So it's going to become the norm for Pirates to fork out ~100,000,000 just to be able to pirate a single hauler/miner? I don't see haulers or miners paying 100,000,000 every time they want to mine in one of these POB infested mining fields. Also please, I'm not going to believe that you're able to pirate in a storm of 5 battleships weapons platforms. Furthermore it's not healthy to suggest that players should give up and go pirate elsewhere.
Really? Has the Cloak suddenly become a one shot item? You also mention that you make most, if not all your money, by pirating, I am sure that you can afford the 100-150 million for a Cloak. I am equally sure that you can easily make that money back by turning up, uncloaking and doing a 5 millordie demand whilst putting the Bases Shields up.
You didn't argue against the whole of my statement. If you want to pick up on a point, pick up upon the whole package. Pirates are going to have to theoretically pay 100 million just to pirate in a mining field, but miners don't have to pay anything just to be able to mine in the mining field. I also don't see how it's fair to fork out 100-150 million to do something which I should already be able to do without a cloak, but it's due to the players who have saturated the mining fields with those POBs that only have one expensive and unreliable counter-technique.
(04-17-2015, 09:23 PM)St.Denis Wrote:
Quote:Yep, Space is dangerous that is something I agree with. Traders/Miners shouldn't have it easy when it comes to making a profit and I don't feel that Pirates should have an easy life when making money via piracy either (though they should of course have a lot more leeway as it's harder for them)
Please, as you are the one that makes all your money from Piracy, tell me why the Pirate should have more leeway? As for it being harder for them, isn't that a personal choice? I see pirates that don't seem to have a hard time unless they sit still and wait for everything to come to them (including the Navy).
Why should pirates have more leeway? Well considering that recent balance changes have mostly eliminated Jump Gate piracy, buffed Transports considerably and taken away the ability to use Gunboats for piracy, Pirates have been getting the poor end for the stick for quite a few versions. The balance is out of whack. I don't believe they should have a strong advantage over traders, I just want balance between the two.
(04-17-2015, 09:23 PM)St.Denis Wrote:
Quote:Sloth is one of the seven deadly sins and we can see it personified in the forms of POBs. Please don't use your own laziness as an excuse to infect mining fields with detrimental POBs.
Nice one, Your statement could be used against you, as I also believe Greed is another one!
I'd award you for your statement there, if not for the fact that we're not asking for more: we're asking for things to be returned back to the way they are. If anything, the Miners and POB owners are the ones who show greed - they want the POB in the field to maximize profit and reduce hostile actions as much as possible regardless of fairplay.
(04-17-2015, 09:23 PM)St.Denis Wrote:
Quote:Yes, yes you are. "I", "my", "I'm". It's all about you, isn't it? You don't have to give a toss about the gameplay on the other side of the coin, as long as at the end of the day you can still keep lining your greedy pockets.
Whenever one argues against anything, they do tend to use argue from there standpoint. This also goes for the person who wrote the above quote. You have no idea, other than your own conception of why somebody else does Trading/Mining etc. You are very good at putting people in to neat little boxes. Have you ever thought that you have no clue what makes people 'tick' other than your ill conceived opinion?
However when one argues against anything, they SHOULD take into account things from both sides. Mao, as well as a lot of other people in this thread, argue purely from the perspective of a POB owner or miner. They don't give a toss about the other side of the coin. I am well aware of why someone does trading and mining. On top of leading a piracy faction I also lead a faction that mines and trades, which is still the same faction
(04-17-2015, 09:23 PM)St.Denis Wrote:
Quote:In the event that the admins ultimately do move POBs within mining fields, would they do the same for POBs that sit at Jump Holes and Jump Gates?
And there we have it, if the person gets what he wants, then he will go after something else. At this rate why don't we just let this person decide how the Game should be played and be done with it? This person is always, instead of just playing the Game, finding things he doesn't like and trying to get it changed.
You must be blind to think I'm the only person here arguing that these POBs are bad with their placement.