Quote:You didn't argue against the whole of my statement. If you want to pick up on a point, pick up upon the whole package. Pirates are going to have to theoretically pay 100 million just to pirate in a mining field, but miners don't have to pay anything just to be able to mine in the mining field. I also don't see how it's fair to fork out 100-150 million to do something which I should already be able to do without a cloak, but it's due to the players who have saturated the mining fields with those POBs that only have one expensive and unreliable counter-technique.
Saturated the fields? A slight exaggeration. You are now doing what you accused a previous person of doing 'I'. This Game isn't about you, it is about all the players. How much money and time has a builder of the Base put in vs the time and money needed to get a 100-150 million credit cloak? I don't think they are even close. That doesn't include the upkeep needed to keep them going (RA, FOW and the fuel to replace what is used when the Base is shot).
Quote:Why should pirates have more leeway? Well considering that recent balance changes have mostly eliminated Jump Gate piracy, buffed Transports considerably and taken away the ability to use Gunboats for piracy, Pirates have been getting the poor end for the stick for quite a few versions. The balance is out of whack. I don't believe they should have a strong advantage over traders, I just want balance between the two.
I find this a bit laughable. I have been pirated and these Pirates turn up in Fighters (rarely), Bombers (mostly), GBs and every now and then Capital Ships. They for the most seem to be very capable Pirates and usually get what they want. 2 Bombers or even 1 Bomber and 1 Fighter can easily take out most Traders. How easy do you want it? I have recently seen Posts about getting rid of Traders Regens, restrict their Armour etc. We have had the Scanners reduced time after time and I also remember a suggestion that the Pirate's Scanners should be increased so that they can see the Traders/Navy even earlier.
Quote:I'd award you for your statement there, if not for the fact that we're not asking for more: we're asking for things to be returned back to the way they are.
Ah! there is the 'we'. So you aren't asking for more you just want things to be 'returned back to the way they are'??????? You are always asking for things to be changed. 'I don't like JDs because they stop interaction' JDs then get nerfed. 'What do you mean they can still jump 4 Systems? That stops interaction because I still can't Pirate them'. The list is endless of your wants and when you end up with something going your way, you then want more.
[quote]If anything, the Miners and POB owners are the ones who show greed - they want the POB in the field to maximize profit and reduce hostile actions as much as possible regardless of fairplay.
Fairplay? In whose eyes? The Greed works both ways as you want to earn your money from Pirating those Miners/Traders and for it to be easier for you. The hostile actions? I thought this was about interaction or is it really about getting your ships filled up with the Ore or if not getting the 'Blue' and then getting your ships filled up with the ore but to a lesser degree? So Greed? Let's be a bit honest here.
I think quite a few people know how a certain Pirating Group operate. Notice that miners have logged in, log in with Pirate Ships, head to Fields, hold up Miners/Haulers, call in Pirate Transport, take ore, head back to Base, log off. The interaction is really all one sided.
Quote:However when one argues against anything, they SHOULD take into account things from both sides. Mao, as well as a lot of other people in this thread, argue purely from the perspective of a POB owner or miner. They don't give a toss about the other side of the coin. I am well aware of why someone does trading and mining. On top of leading a piracy faction I also lead a faction that mines and trades, which is still the same faction
I would agree on your first sentence, but having read a lot of your arguments in other/this Thread you come across as someone who only sees it from their perspective. That isn't just my opinion but some others that I have talked to. As for you being aware why someone does Trading/Miner, I would suggest that you 'think' you know. Not everybody thinks the same way as you, so stop pigeon-holing people.
Quote:You must be blind to think I'm the only person here arguing that these POBs are bad with their placement.
No, I am not blind. I may need glasses for reading (old age creeping up) but I think that Garrett Jax answered that question earlier:
Quote:I've investigated the POB blocking JH and JGs before, and every time I do, the POB's in question are discovered to be no big deal and easy to get around. That, from the factions the POB's are supposed to hinder.
Quote:What about POBs like the ones in Puerto Rico though? Stuff like that is one of the reasons why Xenos are so inactive.
This statement has left me puzzled so I thought that I would throw it in here as well. So now you are blaming some of the inactivity of one Faction on its inability to enter one system? Very poor excuse.
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