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Offline HuggieSunrise
05-20-2015, 03:57 AM,
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This is unattached to any issue.

This is my one and only feedback for admins. its a general address. Like ... i don't know most of you..

Most.....

Integrity will make you or break you.

Others will see it broken before you do and all there's left after you catch up is... creating delusions of adequacy.

For example. "I dont get paid. I'm not thanked. There's no dental. Ill quit if you think Im a failure." ..

DONT DO THAT.. Im going to tell you.. if you don't know this but you accepted the job ... not for the "perks" but for the "pirks".

Anyone with a nose to smell eyes to see and a brain to think knows humans accept changes and positions and circumstances that are apparently less painful and more appealing than their current situation, if and when they do make a change.

Its like quantum physics. setting trash on fire. or the procession of all you can eat thursday at the benihana.

HUGGIE THAT'S NOT TRUE I MARRIED A TERRIBLE WOMAN AND SHE LEFT ME FOR THE LAWYER.

SO DID I! LOL.. well she left with the tv too. but i said apparently appears to be. and well that situation fixed itself.. you say "THAT LINE" and stay as a admin.. everything you just said on the alter of underappreciation is perfectly acceptable to you as long as you keep doin it. So stop.

dont do what i did for too long. .. just.. be honest with us and yourself. you'll be respected for way longer. and its the grown up thing to do.

Dont get mad at me I was the WORST effing offender of this. i made excuses all day and had scrap for integrity when I admined for the first few years.

All things come to an end naturally. Nothing you do, within reason ...you know like taking the money and running will affect this.

Its gonna stop no matter if you feel you personally succeed or fail. Its always between tick and tock. You fit between them doing your best. No one.. THING will kill it.

It should be commended that.. most "group" authority that sorta self regulating self hiring and self enforcing.. never make it past a year. I submit second life as my evidence. other games.. but second life is the biggest because there is always money involved.

Anyway. The dev team is a separate thing.. Im guessing this fact has prolonged the life of the community, but as of late.. people have been more snappy than in memory. Snappy because they dont fear you.

this is a mistake. OH HUGGIE ADMINS SHOULDN'T BE FEARED THEY SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT DOES AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF THE RULE KEEPING AND JANITORIAL DUTIES.

Im not saying thats totally wrong. But lets do an exercise..

There is a fork before all of us. The path has winded down to this decision. Democracy or Autocracy

Right now.. its a mess of both. But for hypotheticals lets say we need to do one or the other well. Or put our balls in a drawer and shut the drawer... slam it.. for our failures in practicing decent community upkeep.

Path A. For autocrat.

Supreme authority advised by a group of lesser authorities.

The supreme authority is elected by his lessers. (cause usually its the dude with the money) his lesser are elected by the supreme. All rules, provisions, staff. come through this pentaverate of authority. The authority decides everything.

Pros - Things get done quicker. Punishments, changes in rules, rulings on difficult issues are rules upon for better or worse within a speedy period of time. The ability to change up and move the actual "events" damn how many toes are stepped on. (is that a pro?) well yes when you have a lot of "workload" also this sadly makes the dev team subservient to the admins.

Cons - Brown Nosing may get past the screenings and discernment of the supreme authority as a matter of feeling good about himself sitting naked on a throne of satin and tears. Authority can be abused by personal views. and great drama can exist unless the personality for the position isn't strong. Appeals are non existent.

Path B for Bemocracy

Admins are elected by votes through a system of anonymous interviews and anonymous "resume" like summaries of the candidates. Anonymity in voting is enforced by a random drafting of electors who conduct votes and screen candidates.

Basicly the existing admins run for RE election anonymously as well. questions are asked and are answered by forms. Merits and skills are considered regardless of personal affiliation.

Rules are made and edited by 3/4ths vote.

Final changes are done by vote of faction leaders and those who've put time and energy into the community. who "gets" a vote is a pool of moderators faction members and even players of the community who may have been former members who have been in good standing. (its a good idea to have lots of voting bodies to keep favoritism and fixing a lesser concern.

Ratification is done by a final admin vote of 100%. if it fails it gets retweaked. if fails again its shelved for 60 days or forever.

Pros: Transparent as hell. Everyone who's involved in the process contributes evenly even the mod/dev team is enfolded into this process to coax a mentality of "explaining" successfully what changes are needed and why.

Cons: voters might be harassed by those that don't have a vote.. bribery is a possibility. changes and developments will take FOREVER.. but at least this will have an excuse.




These two paths are exclusive. whats being done now is.. well. OKAY. but at the same time when your a mix of two concepts.. its easy to cherry pick what "feels better" to work.

My point in urging a look at these two systems is that. whole the originator of the mod and the story seems to have about as much say in its development as the rest of us.

Im getting the idea that making the story seem to move ahead is more of a chore then the process that everyone fits into. and while a chore would be the case in either autocratic or democratic.. progress would be made through a different process as to unburden or selectively burden rather then..letting it float around.

Democratically plot is considered by all the votes and those involved will have a say represented through those votes via the faction leaders. the matter won't be left in the wind to be dealt with. because every issue will be worked on and voted on in equal measure.. by the body politic.

Autocratically it will go the direction the supreme authority has envisioned. But it will proceed.

HUGGIE YOU SO SILLY YOU DONT EXSPECT US TO DO ANY OF THIS CRAP.

lol aww if you only knew why... there's nothing to be afraid of in change.

i'm just pointing out two ways it could be done... "differently" whether it "feels" better to you or not is up to you.

I can only say my true discontent comes from a mild distaste that the community hasn't seen fit to change how its run ..like its.. some sorta sacred cow.

isnt it kinda time?

the mod changes.. factions change..

why not this?

HUGGIE TALKIN BOUT FEAR AS A TOOL..

well.. you guys already do it. the true authority you should be tapping is respect. and while im not a wizard at cultivating it I am fairly adept at not losing the rest of mine.

Cleanly and plainly explaining situations and not excuses are needed.. there's been a few news posts like.. decrees coming from on high telling us all what's happened or happening then a thread comes up and you explain as if you needed time to get your story straight.

OH NO THATS NOT THE CASE ..

Sorry it LOOKS that way it might as well BE that way. this isn't about intentions who's lying and how do we get this or that to move quicker and smoother through the bowel thats discos public opinion of changes cause we're tired of TERRIBLE TERRIBLE screaming..

Its about approaching how you guys are doing things differently.. from the ground up. with a more collective front.. and clearer understandable form of communication.

Until you start or try to do it.. you're going to be running from the same shadows and making the same mistakes.

WHAT MISTAKES HUGGIE..HOW DARE YOU SAY WERE ... I WANT FACT I WANT EVEDENCE OF THESE MISTAKES.

perceived mistakes IDEAS that someone might have a problem with what you're doing.. alot of its met with delayed explanations.. and it feels like there's just this stumbling down the stairs method of "explaining" things you shouldn't bother explaining in the first place.

We get that enough from "officials" in real life. don't mimic their broken crap. just change.. just tell us what's on the burning stove or list it in the forums as incomplete or undecided cause this jack in the box SURPRISE HERE'S CHANGES stuff isn't ...well it just isn't.

if you guys hadn't noticed lately well. people are forgiving only when you 90% backpedal and thats a DAMN INSULT.

anywho. love yas sorry if this ruffles feathers

People will do what they do. Rules do only so much. how we do things has the maximum chance to changing people's reactions.. that's the technicality the one chance you got. Past that? .. might as well take the gloves off.. stop coating everything in laxatives and chocolate.. no one liked swallowing pills anyway.
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