New core battleship

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RP Justification? We need a heavy battleship to hit things hard and fast, to compete with our enemies. We also need a viable ship for nomad farming.

If you'd forgive me but those are the worst arguments you could come up with. Firstly, "heavy" doesn't go with "fast", its either the former or the later. Secondly, you can't be serious here, justifying it with nomad farming? Heh I didn't expect that coming.

If I have to be serious, nomad farming is fairly easy, even for zoner nephilims that are pretty useless for capital pvp unless tanking.
And for the rest, I guess I'd just quote that again in case you've missed it:

The whole problem I see with this ship being a potential AP addon, is its shape and fwd gun (not to mention you already have a complete ship line). As I already said, adding something that changes the shaping that AP follows completely, will change the way of how core tactics are handled in combat, and thus ruin the whole balance.

And to be more specific - lets say you have a mako and a thresher combo against an ossie and rehseph combo, on each side you have two ships that are in a way resembling each other and this is part of the balance itself.

And

As far as I know, the core cruiser is by far the best cruiser in the game, and hence the best anti-battleship space-craft there is. What more do we need

Lighter ships tend to have the higher skill caps. A skilled player can make very good use of the Thresher. However, as I've said, the Thresher has less armour compared to other cruisers which can just tank it.

This also doesn't matter much. Take Osiris and Murmillo as example, they both have low hull and low firepower which implies on them being ships that pay for skill, and skill only. Tanking is out of the question here, same goes for the thresher.

Also Lyth, light battleships are not supposed to tank enemies.
If you'd want a tanking battleship well, this is the worst possible decision to make, I would never recommend you to, see the turtle, its one big tank but its useless in almost every other way because thats the price you have to pay for your tank.
And in capital pvp, nobody would let you tank them if you're in a big ship, they'd just flee.

Good =/= OP.
Both the Thresher and especially the Bottlenose can just be tanked. The Thresher has less hull than every other cruiser in the Omicrons and Omegas, it can be tanked by them. The Res has the huge advantage of having 4 CMs, so if things get too hot it can easily run away. The Bottlenose can just die to about everything other Gunboat out there (However right now Gunboat balance is really messed up and has deviated from the norm, though you can still tank it with other GBs).

According to my experiences all this is false. Firstly, if you have two ships of the same class fighting, tanking will hardly happen unless both sides go for it. Because each class of capital ships has a certain thrust and impulse speed, and if you fight against a capital of your class, unless the enemy lets you tank them, you won't.

Secondly, thresher might have low hull, but has a very friendly combat shape and good agility, you have those to compensate your low hull, thus the thresher pays only for skill, just like the Osiris does, and I can't see any problem in that.

And lastly, the bottlenose is the tiniest thing I've fought against seriously, I fought those in gunboats and battleships alike and I have yet to score more than one kill on a bottlenose. Bottlenose having that combat friendly shape can evade a good amount of fire easily, and thus is very useful against battleships.

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