Harvester

[ScornStar]

Restating: the Zoner->Order->Corsair->Harvester relation really needs to be clarified.

Order and Zoners are allied, and the Order are sworn protectors of humankind.
The Harvesters are non-humans that openly attack Zoners and harvest humans that are precieved as a threat or obstacle (which is quite different from shooting down and dumping in prison, for example).

The Order must know - would this not make the order hostile? The Order and Zoners have a lot of cooperation - see for example the research complex in Omicron-74.

And then... Corsairs side with the Harvesters? This is strange, seeing that this would make them at odds with their closest (in terms of distance) allies, and the ones that are actually providing them supplies like food.

Only an all-out Corsair war against the Order and the Zoners in Theta could make this fit, and that, imnsho, would be a very different storyline.

Ok let me go one by one.

Ok, the Order. We the Harvesters have had little contact with the Order for a few reasons. One. While we may be from Gammu we do not operate near Gammu often we stretch out further to cover more ground. While the Order seldom leave thier space at all.

Two, do to data retrieved by Pyriel of the Scornstar, FTGW is aware of the Order's disposition and, locataion.
As a result it is best to maintain a low profile around the Order. The low profile around the Order involves not harvesting near Toledo, or any other capital planets like Manhatten, New Berlin, New Tokyo, New London and so on. As we seldom have more to gain by harvesting a ship with small fleets we are about to lose. If there is an utter lack of Elites(players) there we may try.

Three, the Order has many bombers. The Harvesters have many capships, FTGW did the math and its better not to fight them. Now every ZOner we cross has been harvested, with the exception of the elites(players) who are a cut above the rest and more wily. Now while the elites may talk it seems few individual ZOners have the political clout to represent all ZOners and build binding military agreements with the Order or GMG. I may be wrong but, I think of their agreements as sort of convienent and "just how it happened".

So, since the Order isn't seeing it and the Harvest are not so great as to limit their supplies significantly, and thier ever present attacks of the BHG and Nomads I think unless we acted in front of them there would be little for us to be concerned with them.

The Corsairs, I think are a proud and ruthless race. I think some would accept it while others would not. They may only accept it while its conivientent who knows. They may be planning to screw us but I have to let it play out in a believable fashion. I also know they are none too pleased with the Zoners not calling their AW allies to back off. So, maybe they feel they need an expendable ace up thier sleeve. So with out going toom uch in detail know that we are not drinking buddies with the Corsairs they keep us at arms length, and dont even let our capital ships dock on Crete, with out escort, authorization and a gun to our head. Additionally we have been giveing them things free that the Zoners charge for. We hunt AW, Outcast, which are both of their enemies. So, to sum it up.

We eat their foes, and give them free stuff and FTGW respects the Elder councils request so, we earn thier non interferance. Not to mention we are not to hunt ZOners in the orbit of Crete. They may change the terms, thats their system to do so. Then we will adapt.

Hope this helps and thank you for your patience.

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