GRN feedback thread

[Independent Miners Guild]

Okay, I have a complaint of how one/a few selected (?) GRN| players log to interact with IMG indies.

The GRN| in question yesterday logs off his JM| after IMG| comes to the system. He then announces on TS that he will continue his harrassment of the indie group with his GRN|. He logs it. I told him to explain the stuff to the indies. I don't know how this one ended. Likely in a few blued indies.

Today, he logs his GRN| again. Aim: screw over IMG indies.

What does he do?

He flies a GB to the Niobium field and demands them to move the Niobium to Gallia.
That's in accordance with the laws. That makes sense irp... for a seasoned, experienced player.

However: Indies most often have no clue. And I told this player repeatedly that he needs to educate them, point them to the thread, give background. Flying out, taxing transports 10 million for not having a permit that they do not know of, without giving them a link, and blowing them up if they do not understand it is not a cool way of playing the game. Let's not even talk about the first time GRN| decided to enforce that law (after no announcement at all) and would have shot IMG| down if I had not deescalated and logged everybody off.

Furthermore, there is no selling point for Niobium that IMGs can dock at. It's a GMS base. IMG ID is rephacked no-docking. So, how to do that: "transport it to Gallia"? With indies? Not even I would follow you there and I know all the laws and stuff.

Back to the situation: The indies in question rp back, rather nicely. Their transport wants to go back to Java for food and water for the long flight. That's good rp. What does the GB do: gun it down. The player comments it with the words: "they would have logged off! They fled!", on TS.

Gunning down the transport triggers the full scale of madness. The indies log Battlecruiser and shoot at the GB (not unlikely reengaging in the process). They are furious about the treatment. Understandably so.

The GRN| then docks at Java (= IMG base) under IMG fire, in plain view of me (I was on IMG|, trying to educate and calm the situation, but it was beyond hope), chased by angry indie IMGs who shot him down to like 1/10th hull.

So... summary:

Neutral indie IMGs are taxed/shot by a white GRN| for wanting to fly a transport back to Java. Most of them do not even understand what this is about. The demand "go to Gallia" is not fulfillable, as there is no dockable selling point for Niobium. After blue-ing an IMG, and after triggering an "all out revenge" response, the GRN| docks on Java (IMG station) while under fire by IMGs in plain view of my IMG|, which is a 1.3.

What do I do with this?
Because this is messed up beyond salvation.

> I suggest you make regular announcements about this law and how you intend to enforce it. On forums and ingame.
> I suggest you find a way to somehow solve the Niobium selling point because making a demand that cannot be fulfilled is a sanctionable offense.
> I ask you to explain to indies what this is all about. They do not know about the war, about surrender, occupation. It's us - as officials - who have to tell them before we assume they know and apply the knowledge.


I will ignore this incident because I do not feel like going through the whole mess and waste even more time.

I just hope that this somehow ends.
But that's entirely in your hands.

If you want to do your "harrass IMGs roleplay", tell them to mine Berryl that has a good selling point. And explain it to them. Irply and best also oorply. All these guys that fly tagged there are literate, they are not your standard lolwut that can be abused at will.

But if you treat them the way they were treated in these two examples, you push them into behaving like lolwuts. And I do not want this to happen -again-. One player left Disco because of the harrassment, I was told today when I chatted to them after the incident. They did not know what dsace.log is, and generally were in the first stages of Disco-ing.

Screwing this most vulnerable group of inexperienced, but motivated players over, as an ultra-experienced player, over a well-hidden, barely known forum law on purpose is just plainly wrong.

Logs and screens can be given via Skype on demand.

See you

Jack

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