Liberty Navy [LN] Feedback Thread

[Mímir]

Heyy, there you are To be honest, I was wondering what was going on yesterday. You seemed so diplomatic in your posts, but now JudgementalJoe is back in his old form. I mean, when you run out of arguments you can always target the person, right? Well well well, I too can play that game!

If you look at my very first post, I write this: "I would be lying if I was to say I really care, but on a more general level, do you not think that this kind of 'individual roleplay' in ways undermine the legitimacy of an official faction?" and also this "Yes, I am asking solely for the sake of the discussion, I have nothing against the player or the faction, but this is a topic that interested me as long as I played here." Now 10 pages later, you come to the conclusion that I have an agenda and that my questions are centered around a very clear underlying point of view. Well spotted!

Furthermore, you are the guy that constantly reduces everyone elses experiences to assumptions and then go on to write: "Y'know what Mimir... I think you ignoring official factions might be in everyone's best interests. You go right ahead and do that."

Here's the deal: I am and was a member of a host of official factions, I know full well that the official factions are a necessity and are extremely important to the server and community. That doesn't mean that factions cannot improve, and I thouroughly believe that we can only improve through critique. In short: I believe in factions, and I am trying to help them improve. That is and always have been my goal, even though it is of course far more convenient to brush everything off with the notion of me being a 'hater'. You know, when you stepped down as [LN] leader I left a positive thank you note in your thread, I appreciated the leadership role you took. I've also had a lot of positive encounters with you in-game, you fight fair and so on and so forth. You are just not very good at handling criticism, you take it for something it isn't and you combat it in an extreme fashion, and exactly that has been the cause of a lot of grief for players who do not see eye to eye with you on some matters. As a result of the cronyism, one is never just discussing with you, but always with a band of mindless +1'ers. Back in the RNC-days, you even had the head of RM log and warn our group, even though he fucking hated it and knew we'd done absolutely nothing wrong, save for annoy you by our presence - that's a problem, Joe, and one you and your ego are the sole source of.

I know full well what it entails to be in an official faction. I also have my head squarely enough planted on my shoulders to know that I am only here for recreational purposes. If I don't have fun, I try to change the situation (also by improving my own approach, based on feedback I receive from other players) or I stop playing. It's supposed to be fun, and if you aren't having fun as the Liberty Navy kingpin, why the hell do it? Why not say "yeah, there are these, these and these issues with the faction system, it's not fun and it makes us into full retards. Let's make it better", rather than fight any point of view that endangers status quo?

I'm in factions with leaders I look up to and respect, leaders who dedicated a lot of their time to give something back to the community, while also having fun playing the game. Leaders who encourage openness and differences of opinions between players within the faction. Mature leaders. You advocate for the opposite: That likeminded individuals are attracted to one another, and thus form factions. I'll have you know that a certain few factions are formed on the basis of a shared passion for the faction in question and the roleplay, while not sharing points of views or even liking the other members within the faction. Maybe you get accused of cronyism because you believe it is the only way the faction system can work? Your post reaks of a strong emphasis on "good people", "people who care about roleplay" and other such judgements, rather than taking a more mature approach and look at the larger picture.

There are some people who put a remarkable effort into Disco, and I do not claim to have done anything like that. Then there are those who believe they fall into that category simply by donning a tag or a blue forum name.

At the end of the day, is this not where the problem rests:

"You complaining about a really very minor incident, and using it to further your agenda of knocking the official faction system down a notch or two, is much like this."

What if it was never ever my intention to "knock the official faction system down a notch", what if you are absolutely and totally wrong in your judgements and assumptions? Have you ever considered that possibility?

---