With the ships; We use Outast Dreads because they can get through asteroids, where as the Zoner Juggernaut cannot. I was planning a small RP thread of us selling the Caedo back to the outcasts (as its a rare read) in return for a brand new OC BS, as its smaller and fits our uses better. No Battlestars an Bstar Adv. are NOT good at asteroids, at all. If they were, I'd have used them from the start. I'm still hoping the new Jugg that comes in 4.85 is good enough in asteroids that I can have all our BSs be nothing but Zoner Juggernauts.
For cruisers, we currently have a total of one Outcast Destroyer, which is going to be changed into a Zoner Destroyer quite soon, once I get the money for the refits.
On Gunboats, as I mentioned before, I'm willing to switch to IMG Gunboats if a lot wish it.. We don't yet have a Zoner Gunboat yet. We can't all be as lucky as the Outcasts and Corsairs and have a ship for each class.. We make do with what we have available, and I'm getting pretty sick of people who take that out on us.
We have no Sabres in AW at all.
I have ordered everyone to get rid of Falcatas and get Taiiden Bombers, from Freeport 11. We'd use Civilian Bombers, but I think Zelot can easily understand why we don't.. Flying targets aren't too useful.
Now this will be the last time I say this, as I've said it more times than I should have. If its said again I'll completely ignore it. Even in RP threads/message dumps. We are not allied, aligned, friendly, anything you come up with, with the Outcasts. As I told McNeo, we ask Outcasts for help as they are the enemies of the people currently hostile to us. If the Outcasts were to have attacked us instead, we'd be going to the Corsairs for help. You want us to stop working with the Outcasts when fighting you in Theta? Stop going to war with us. Also, we have been trying to use more mercs and BHG, even though I dispise using them, instead of calling on Outcasts to help us because you guys can't stop yourselves from complaining about it. Does it really make a difference if we have our enemy's enemy help us, or we pay someone to help us? It really has no difference what-so-ever, you just want to complain about it so you can call us 'not Zoners.' This is all I'll be saying on this subject now and in the future, regardless of what type of post it is put in. You've heard it from me, multiple times, you've heard it from the Outcast's themselves. Would you like me to ask CR to testify that we've never shot them in defence of the Outcasts? I could bring in a lot of Core members who would say the same..
@Chico; Theta comes under AW influence when we owned Omi-74. Omi-74 is the main and original Zoner Guard system. Theta is the main Zoner system, non-guard. So whoever has Omi-74 has Theta in their ZoI. Just like whoever owns Tau-63 (Blood Dragons) has ZoI of Chugoku.
Also, we are admittedly not neutral BECAUSE we are stuck between the Outcasts and the Corsairs. No matter what we wish, neutrality or no, we will be stuck between the Outcasts and Corsairs, and that will result in these things happening. All AW can do is try to reduce the tensions, which is what we tried by staying in Theta, and not entering Gamma, and not sending any threats.
I do agree with you on point II, we have never been very unlawful. The closeest we've ever been to unlawful was when we fought SF and SA when helping the HF. That was an RP alliance and we went in only to help HF when SF got involved (HF ws getting mobbed by numbers, so we came in until SF agreed to leave the war to Libertyand HF only). Other than that, the wars with SF all happened before NPC affiliation came, so we weren't Zoners during that, plus all but one were because of the SF.. We only started one. Those wars were more personal than RP really..
In the meantime, we've been defending Theta from fighting, and especially defending traders from pirates. Thats what we've never allowed, even HF wasn't allowed to pirate (even though they never did anyway) and we wouldn't allow people to pirate traders hostile to us either..
Merc wouldn't work. For one, we can't have any capital ships with Merc IDs. Second, just because we group with BHG occasionally doesn't mean that we are mercs. The only BHG and mercs we are ever grouped with are those that are helping us or being paid by us. We never group with Outcasts. Only time we have in recent times was when training (helping them test their new BSs or loadouts against ours).
Also, Corsairs have one really screwed up version of aligned.. Grouped in no way means aligned.. Not even close. We group with BHG for a small matter or because they are helping us when paid, and now all of the sudden we are allied? I don't see how that connects at all. Also, as stated, we don't group with Outcasts, we are not aligned, we are at best connected by; 'Mutual Military Struggle.' Which means that we are both enemies of someone, and we help each other if we find them under attack by that person/group. It doesn't even get to friendly.
On the BH attacking Gamma, well none of you said anything to the AW, nor was any evidence provided. If you wish to complain about something, you bring it up with the relevent parties, not hold on to it so you can complain later. Delta is not ours, in control, RP rights, or responsibility.
Now, on the matter of Theta being next door to Gamma, perhaps we can ask Igiss for something similar that he did for Alpha. Put a mid-system. Omicron ***** connects Theta and Gamma. I could even make the system for him. Simply put a single base (forward outpost like Palermo) and a few planets.
I'm forgetting something, I know it, but just can't think of it.. Maybe it'll come tomorrow..
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