The JUNKER CONGRESS

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The junkers have their own line of guns that rival the skyblast line.

Civilian weapons are fine since the junkers are technically civilians, besides which everyone seems to want to mount pulse cannons.

Ships... anything sold on a junker base... that includes the bloodhound and legionaire. Do you mean anything sold on a junker base that isn't assigned to another faction?

Pirate transport and train, they're pirate vessels so I doubt you'll fly them openly through house space.

The miner use to be sold on a samura owned planet in kusari, if it still is the hogosha won't let you get near the place and if you do get there samura won't let you have it until the hogosha enforcers get to you.

Prison liner... questionable as to why you'd want to use that.

Rhienland battleship... how exactly are you planning to haul the seperate pieces all the way to the junker guard system without the RM finding out?

Especially since ALG are keeping a careful watch over what the rheinlanders consider graves/war-memorials and that you've have to clear each and every system of all traffic, disable the tracking software, built into each jumpgate and tradelane ring, that agiera and interspace commerce use to see what ships are hauling what cargo (and which the hackers have access to) just to make sure that no-one see it.

Other then that... I don't see any problems.

You have an argument there that to me is a little overstated and based on some things that are assumptions not necessarily established facts.

Junkers sell the things at their bases--it stands to reason they could buy them on occasion. The question is, would they and if they did what would they use it for and how would it affect them?

The Prison Liner has been discussed on other occasions on the forum and several times has been noted as a suitable Junker ship by several different players. This is really a minor issue--we have a specific RP use for it that is something one or two members may want to do. It is an option and can't be "forbidden" simply because an individual doesn't see an obvious reason to have it.

The ALG argument is somewhat contrived. Gas fields, radiation, volatile gas, a base in the midst of Wild, player pirates, terrorists and Corsair patrols with numerous jump holes to several systems. Could the Junkers smuggle out things? Of course they could...and by their faction's--and our own particular faction's-- behavior very likely would.

Sure Rheinland would see them as war memorials. The Pacific islands on earth are littered with war memorials that are sunken ships where salvage or taking things is illegal and they are progressively looted each year. The fields around Yanagi are not "The Pearl Harbor Memorial". Radiation, volatile gas, Corsairs and the Wild make "graveside memorial services" a bit unlikely. I'm sure when the Junkers recover bodies or personal effects, they respectfully turn them over to the authorities--simply to maintain good impressions. In fact, it is just such recoveries that justify our role play back story that we are archivists and records keepers as well as salvagers and social networkers par excellence.

Puerto Rico has a shipyard and is an isolated system with lots of room and places to hide things. Assembling a Rheinland cruiser or battleship there isn't implausible. Working codes, CDs bats and bots are pulled of the wrecks in Yanagi all the time. Why not engine components and the like?

As barragers are sold primarily at Junker bases (some Molly as well) we can call them Junker guns and they are good. "Rivaling" skyblasts is overstated--comparable to is a better description. Yet they are on the low end of faction weaponry and are the only gun type the Junkers posses "natively".

As "stock gear" for the CSV and Collector and a secondary gun on some fighters, fine. it stand to reason though there will be times where other guns would be used. If Bretonian splitters are available on a Junker base, why couldn't they be used?

In like manner, "stock" weapons of unlawful faction shouldn't be that hard for Junkers to purchase. It's just a question of what might they be used for? i firmly agree that "guards weapons" that are faction specific shouldn't be on Junker ships and i think the server policies pretty much already dictate that.

Faction specific SHIPS would not normally be flown by Junkers or any other players. A Legionnaire would be a poor choice of a personal ship for a Junker or trader or lawful--even a freelancer. It is firmly associated with piracy and it would be hard to overcome the image with.

Guns and weapons? A little more flexible, I think. The pirate carriers are the most "Junker looking" ships and people like them. I think it isn't to much of a stretch to say they have to be solely associated with "piracy". You carry a smuggler license but you aren't arrested as a smuggler on sight by police.

It shows that, as a trade, you have demonstrated trends of suspicious behavior that make you a bit suspect and warrant more attention from the authorities towards you. in general, ship types and guns should be the same. You don't necessarily get blown to smithereens for mounting a pirate gun but it sure raises questions and attracts attention.

Every player has to decide how much heat they can take and how much respectability they want to project, then roll the dice and take their chances.

I tried not to restate server rules and policies as its a given they must be followed.

Your comment though about pirate vessels is a good point though. What would Junkers fly for big transport? I can see a role for collectors and CSVs that includes not just salvage but loading and offloading "suspicious" vessels near Junker bases but surely their is a large ship that a Junker could "honestly" trade in.

The Firefly would be a candidate and many Junkers like it. there is no reason Junkers couldn't have a train. But the role play is nicer if Junkers have a lot of 'suspicious vessels"--they just aren't entirely confined to them.

As to the mining ship--its just an rp that some Junkers like and it is pretty singular for it's purpose. I don't think we have a big conflict here. A Junker shows up, puts down the cash, gets treated rudely as they take his money and is told to take his ship get out of the area quickly before someone tells a Hogosha he is about. If Kusari imposes an enforced official ban on Junkers in their space or Mining ships are only available at Hogosha bases--different story then.

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