The JUNKER CONGRESS

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If you've ever flown a Rhein, you'll also know that it's probably the best battleship in the mod, too. If you want a Rheinland capship, go for RH pirate cruiser, it looks more junkish, quite possibly re-assembled from other rheinland caps, and won't make the RM get to murderizing you. I understand that junkers could easily pull out all of the pieces for a RM battleship, but they don't have the plans for it. They'd piece it together by what they thought should work, seeing themselves as better engineers than the original designers (read the infocards, the elitism is pretty obvious).

As for the Firefly, it fits with junkers perfectly. Go for it.
Ok, the 'it's sold on our base' thing is getting pretty old, too. You know that example about Kurile, a Samura planet that sells Vengeances? You know what else it sells? The Anubis Order Very Heavy Fighter. If you can tell me honestly that Samura has a right to it because its sold on their base, you're hella deluded. The same goes for a few other ships, like, oh, how the Collector is only sold on Junker bases, yet Hogosha are supposed to use it too despite being hated enemies, or that the only place you can buy RH capships are on corporate bases... so can Daumann use them then? Even the ones allowed by the ID? Hell no. You buy stuff based on RP, not on where it is. Disco has its quirks, don't sacrifice RP to them.

For weaponry, loot it. Junkers are ragtag, so give them one thing here, another there, and the only thing I could reasonably expect you to mount more than one of would be A) Barragers, they're spammed by your NPCs, or B) Transport turrets, as there are no viable alternatives. Even your gunboat stuff should be ragtag, go for a pair of basics, maybe a Liberty, maybe a missile turret, you get the idea. Oh wait, junker gunboat is the mining ship... nvm that bit.

Oh yeah, if you REALLY need that battleship, go for zoner juggernaut. Despite being from Battlestar Galactica, it kind of looks the part. Not that you really need one, after all, who the hell would it ever fight?

Just as a general announcement--neither I nor any members I know of have any intention of buying a Rheinland battleship. What WOULD we use it for? If it ever happens, it will be a role play device and we will have a purpose for it--in Puerto Rico--I'm not seeing this as a huge threat to anyone.

Not planning or advising anyone to buy ships "just because" they are on our bases. We have ships we recommend-- the Rheinland Pirate Cruiser can only be held by the heads of faction and base adjudicators and the adjudicators can't use them away from their bases. So its conceivable a few could be bought by "movers and shakers". Base locations and ship availability here aren't always congruous--I think about what my mixes are and what the thinking is behind them. We will encourage others to do the same. I really want to avoid micromanagement--it doesn't help people have fun.

But I am equally tired of the "Junkers only use mismatched crappy things" argument as well. How the heck do they have their own ship designs based on alien technology then? All the Junkers ships aren't personally hand built from salvaged scrap that an individual Junker collects--and if they are that makes the Junkers the smartest groups in all of Sirius then. It's also ironic I'm always hearing the "use a mix of weapons" cause that was Junkers would do but DON'T use Outcast or Corsair or Hessian or Zoner, etc. etc., (meaning "good" ) weapons.

We might as well just say, "The Junkers are inbred Hillbillies and to stupid to maximize their assets." Pffft.

I understand the rationale of the Galactica suggestion but for myself its a little to "not freelancer" for me. Hehe--and what the heck would the Zoners ever fight? (Go Harvesters!)

The real solution is have a Junker battleship and cruiser designed. I wouldn't care what they were as long as they were distinctive. That's just my wishful thing though.

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