AW vs TBH war, and AW current situation

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Zoners have a wide range of selection for ships. I can see the following possible for you,

Hawk, Griffin, Tiger Shark as the LF class.
Falcon as the HF class.
Eagle, Raven's Talon as the VHF class.
Taiidan & Civilian as the bomber class.
Zoners need a GB asap. Name it Zoner or Civilian but the mod needs it urgently.
Your new toy, Fearless as the destroyer/cruiser class.
Battlestar and Battlestar.Adv as the battleship class.
Zoner Juggernaught as the dreadnaught class.

Looks pretty much enough. I mean, would you need the Falcata or Sabre very badly while you have the Taiidan and Raven's Talon being sold on Zoner affliated locations? Same goes for the battleship class. Just think about these.

For weaponry, if you have a deal with Outcasts, I don't see a problem for you to be using some of their weapons. Since AW can't be considered as pure Zoners. While this argument might rot my previous argument about ship selection, I still believe that keeping the ties within weaponry management would be slightly more appreciated. And, if you are going to use Outcast weapons, you should get rid of any Corsair weaponry before going on. They just don't look nice when together whatsoever RP background stands beneath them.

We don't use the falcatas or Sabres. We don't have a single one. We have Taiidens as all of our bombers, and they are likely to be changed to Civ Bombers in 4.85 when the new one is out. Taiidens are made by Zoner allies and sold on a Zoner Freeport. You guys have made such a huge deal of Freeports, well they are free are they not? I don't think a Zoner would be objecting to selling the AW a Taiiden? Since its already owned by a Zoner (the one who owns the dealership) I don't quite see how it is OORP for a Zoner to use..

The Gunboats, no matter how you put it, we have no friendly or allied GBs to use. GMG and Order don't have their own. However, I see quite a lot of Zoners flying IMG GBs, but none of them get complained about.. I even suggest using the IMG GB as a replacement for a ROGUE and LH GB/GS and I get a load of complaints.. I'd think that getting a more-RP ship would be preferable, not complaining to the point that I decide to just keep what we have as I'll get complaints either way..

The Cruisers, we do use the Zoner Destroyers. Only one exception to that and it has a very old RP to it (Chimaera). And before you say anything, no its not an Outcast Destroyer.

The two OC Dreads we have are in line to be changed. Iluvatar might be a Zoner Juggernaut (depends on Korrd). The Caedo may be changed to an OC BS, as its supposed to be a smaller, more mobile battleship than the 'stationary siege engine' the Juggernaut is. The Caedo is for operations outside of Theta, such as helping other Zoners whenever high firepower is needed. Thats why I was going to change it to an OC BS, and might change it to an Osiris, IF there is less complaints about it. However, the battlestars are NOT small mobile weapon platforms. Would you rather an OC BS or an Osiris?

Also, on the things about the parts and stuff.. If someone had a damaged battleship, would they scrap it and buy a whole brand new one, or repair it? Even if that meant buying spare/replacement parts. Also, Livadia Shipyards would have any required material to repair it anyway. Just because its another faction's ship, that doesn't mean it can't be repaired elsewhere, it simply means they designed it and build the new ones. Also, your point is moot.. Neither of our Dreads has been destroyed or even severely damaged as-of-yet. The only BS we've had destroyed in the last month or two was the Ableben once, and i think we can agree that Livadia won't have any problem repairing it..

BTW, we do not buy the OC Dread because its the best BS available.. Actually, I think the RH BS is the best available, with Zoner Juggernaut coming in 2nd.. We used the OC Dread because it was the most-RP ship available for us outside of the Zoner Jugg. Once OC BS came out I've been getting the money to change it to a BS from Dread. BS isn't nearly as good as the Dread, so I wouldn't have planned on changing it if I just wanted the best.

Also, of course we use one side's ships more than the other. That was a term of the cease fire, we weren't to use Corsair ships, only access to their equipment (which we used only sparingly in the first place..) Would you like us to use Corsair ships too, in the frame of fairness? Didn't think so. Outcast ships are the most-available in terms of RP, so thats what we used. Now I'm here trying to find a better suited one, the IMG Gunboat for the GBs, and Osiris for our single out-of-Theta BS, but you even complain of those, which gives me no incentive to change it..

Also Chopper; Do we need Gunboats? Well, yes, unless you'd like to see us flying around Zoner Juggernauts and Zoner Destroyers all over, but I don't think that Cruiser spamming would be very nice..

On weapons... I can see them getting away with the odd del Cid like SCRA does... we did have an arms deal with Corsairs after all. When we saw that relations had soured, we stockpiled before the deal was cut. We're running low now, though.

However, I don't think AW ever had such a deal. People would cry bloody murder if TBH were using Furys, for instance.

Actually, we did have an agreement. The ceasefire stated neither could use the other side's ships, but we had access to each other's equipment. However, we didn't even stock-pile before this started, and I've specifically ordered my people not only to not buy anymore, but not even to dock any Corsair bases anywhere. And if TBH used Furies they bought either from a Freeport not in Theta or from before this started, I wouldn't mind. I don't care what other people would say, but I'd be perfectly fine with using any equipment they obtained before this war started.

Also McNeo; When it comes to trust, I do not care the factions they are involved in. This is just a game, and I do not use in-game information when making decisions about the person behind the character. I trust whatever you say as much as I'd trust what Lohingren says to me. I speak to Eppy more often and have known him longer, so I'd trust what he says more than you, but that is based on out-of-game information. AW and Phantoms have always been hostile, but that doesn't mean I don't trust any of them.. I'd hoped you would've realize that.

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