Making snubs more appealing

[Riess]

What if I told you that newer players do not care as much about blues as you seemingly do. The point is that caps allow unskilled players to survive and fight without risking to be instantly ravaged by just about anything. And by not dying 20 seconds into the fight, they can have more fun in caps than in snubs at much less effort and time required. They have 'earned' the large ship not by practice, but with trading. If it's more fun, then sure. I'm the last person that would force players into a role/shipclass anyway.

But thats wrong because apparently those people should "stop being salty" about it and actually learn to enjoy being blown up after 20 seconds of fight in which they did no damage to opponent, and start from there by "getting gut" instead of being loosers avoiding fights altogether or going for caps. I mean, you are obliged to have fun in PvP in this way and this way only, and god forbid you from moving on to other games. Get gut or remain bluemsg forever...

Which I guess would suit plenty of folk around here just fine, seeing how quickly they resort to shaming others once they leave the place where community's rules are enforced into wilderness of skypechats.

// Oh look, "get gut" fallacy appeared just as I was writing this post :] To pick from there for minute longer, I wonder how much of this "getting gut" process involves installing macros/scripts or game-file edits people are suprisingly vocal despite their status? Ah, yes, thats on skypechats, so its allright.

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Going back to OP, I'm certain nothing will improve on the matter, to the contrary in fact. This is because PvP rebalancing in Disco moslty occurs at expense of majority, which then reduces its participation in PvP, which in result hurts that hardcore minority, making it demand more changes. Just look at the OP. This isn't first time this talk occurs. Its just another iteration of same old "too little good PvP! REBALANCE!" process that is happening for a while now, always resulting in reaching of some "acceptable middle ground" that makes part of playerbase temporarily happy with changes but eventually results in other part of playerbase making move on to greener pastures.

The PvP balance team would actually have to admit and accept that making snubs appealing to greater group of folk would have to come at cost of hardcore minority. But as "none of those things are ever really going to change", whe are left stuck in the loop.

So, see ya in few weeks in next thread.