Hypothetical Scenario: Removal of TS/TZ - Your reaction

[Binski]

I'd die without TZ. its not just about fighting but when just flying and cruising I have to be able to look around without my ship taking up 60% of my field of vision. It still highly annoys me we can't do it with snubs. I guess i never fought with it on snubs to see how it would be negative but at the very least I hope it would stay for the larger classes of ships. I also like to be able to see groups of ships, get better perspective on surroundings and nearby activity. I do find a big reason I don't use snubs all that often, even for just flying around and exploring/general RP is because unless I'm fighting I prefer to zoom out a few tics on any other kind of ship I fly.

As far as I'm concerned, if you were on a ship even as big as a freighter, you'd have someone flying and someone else shooting in all likelihood. So I agree that it actually allows you to fly those ships the way they were meant to, and optimizes what you can get out of it. They're not unrealistic maneuvers. Snubs have particular advantages in firepower and speed that really only get somewhat offset by the ability to armor a ship, and optimize your defenses. Since we know enough AI exists that we could simply have automated systems do the targeting in RL, with probably better accuracy than us, we leave it as manual for gaming sakes... So as to limitations, I think its a shame to only and ever always be thinking in pvp parameters. Without tz you miss so much of the game, its already brutal you don't get it with snubs. All limitations or removal would do is throw the snubs an even heavier advantage than they already have. As a disco libertarian, removal of options is always bad.

It did trip me out the last time I watched WWII in color and saw the Russians had these old tanks that were 1 man operated and the guy had to both drive and aim/shoot all by himself. We think we have it tough!

What i would love to see is bombers being nerfed to the point of only being dangerous to gunboats and transports, along with TS/TZ being kept but solaris turrets being removed.

Yes, almost completely stop PVP between snubs and capships, with the currently systems of balance all it does is continue to hurt game play and the server as it has for so many years.

Can we elaborate on the exact cause of that harm? I see people say stuff like that but don't go far into details.

I think it should be the opposite...bombers should only be for taking out capital ships. Capships should simply have better defenses against them. Small groups/individual freelancers/pirates that don't have access to capital ships probably shouldn't have the firepower wielded by bombers either. There are shf's for gunboats, and all other ship classes for transports. Perhaps we wouldn't need such heavy armors on transports as much either since that super quick killer bomber might be something a trader worries about less. Pirates can always use transports, fighters, and GB's with decent effectiveness. To me, the ease of anyone jumping into a bomber, especially as in independent generic unlawful, and busting up transports within 2 minutes is more of a hurt on gameplay. Not the guy who sank millions into his capship getting shot down by a bomber that is designed for that purpose (not piracy). Bombers should be more expensive too. Really, it all depends on what you're flying. If you have sols, you have advantage. If not, they do. Their pvp probably still can use some reworking but its transports and GB's that already too easily get taken out by cheap bombers.

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