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Offline Ipuvaepe
07-23-2012, 02:54 AM,
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' Wrote:First of all, i WAS a base owner, it got blown up. then i helped blow up ONE base, so im in no way biased. I Lost one, i destroyed one... I consider myself outta the "bias" question since iv'e been on both sides.

bases ARE too hard to siege... you need a minimum of 4 people to keep a lvl 1 base w/shield running while under siege.

You need a MINIMUM of 10 9m Core Dreadnoughts with 3 cerb turrets shooting continuously without interuptions at all for about 2 hours + to destroy the same base. If even ONE cap is lost, you fail killing it.

The average cost for a LVL 1 Base w/shield and Storage is around 3-400m, maybe more if you hire folks to bring you the goods,

Yes that is expensive. Contrary, it costs 4 850 000 000 to set up the attack force....

and you talk about "expenses"???

IF we go by the assumption that said attack force is created from scratch to destroy that base, said base can be rebuilt about 10 times before the base builder has spent as much money as the attackers...

Now if we add cap armors into that to survive the inevitable bomber and BS spam that will come to stop their siege we are WELL above 13 billions. TO SIEGE A BASE....

cost is an argument? i think not.

EDIT; its also harder to assemble a fleet large enough to siege a base, then it is to build one.

EDit 2;
4 850 000 000 = Legate/Ranseur dreadnought pluss roughly 50m worth of guns
10x 850 000 000 = 8 500 000 000 + "base cost" = 8 500 000 000 + 4 850 000 000 = 13 350 000 000 total cost for 10 legates w/guns and armor.
Your logic is the definition of flawed.

Do not compare the price of ships to the price of base besiegement. Those ships are purchased, they are for all intents and purposes permanent. Do you know how many ranseurs it takes to break the reps on a level 1 shielded base with 3 reps? 5.1, so the sixth one is doing almost full damage to the base. Six ranseurs can kill a shielded level 1 base with 3 reps in just over one hour. At that point there is absolutely nothing defenders can do except to counterattack, the damage is simply more than the max a core1 base with 3 reps can take. It takes hours upon hours to build a base. It takes one to two hours per day to keep that base alive with three reps. 10800 reps per day, usually 2-3 systems away for 400-600 per unit. Your pseudoscientific biased libel of player bases is intolerable, and you are a bad person - gtfo.

EDIT: I've built many bases, some for me some for others. I've lost a few bases. I've killed many more - including smallwood. This changes nothing, effort to kill a base should never be less than effort to maintain it.

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