I want either less powergaming or a bigger chance to participate in it @Devteam

[Durandal]

Okay, make no mistake here. This post isn't addressed at Snak3, I don't care about you, you're just looking to insult me, my faction, and the devteam as I already stated.

However some people here are clearly not in the know and deserve a proper explanation for some of the issues that keep being brought up, so as much as it pains me to 'feed the troll' and type this, I know some of you have legitimate concerns, so I'll cover them starting from Snak3's revival of this thread.

We want to know why Lead System Developer and Hellfire leader ( @Durandal ) refuses to find a peaceful solution to this problem, where official roleplay conducted by official faction with oversight by developer team, that reached out to many factions and created lasting effect, is partially contradicted by inwards, solo RP in stories forum that didn't involve a single outside faction and later on was introduced as a system change in a form of missing Bering->Hamburg JumpGate without concern or respect for others.

This roleplay was not done by me. I was not a member of the faction at the time, I wasn't even involved with the devteam at the time. While the idea of salvaging the Bering gate was mine (and was something that had been discussed literal years prior), the execution was the property of @Charos

Now the dates have been set and do infact contradict the Hudson Crisis, which was executed by @Alley who was unaware of the roleplay and unaware that it would or could ever be considered canon. This was also a decision made largely on her own, much to the chagrin of the lead story dev at the time, @Echo 7-7

What's done is done. I see no reasons to split hairs or pander to somebody who wants to make drama out of what is a messy situation which I had little to no involvement in. When I suggested canonizing the story, Teerin accepted it, and I moved on with my life. I completely forgot that the Bering>Hamburg gate was even mentioned in the Hudson Crisis, due to the fact that it played such a small role (just a tiny news snippet).

And while we understand that Operation Anvil was done first, at no point was Ageira contacted by Hellfire to organise something more interesting than just a string of stories' posts. Even when Ageira went ingame to conduct the investigation mission, participants encountered a Hellfire ship as Scientific Report by Oleg Nikolayevich Petrov on Hudson Gate describes, nothing was mentioned by the Lord Commander Locklear ( @Durandal ). No opportunity to make interesting roleplay, involving more than single faction, was seized.

During that encounter I actually did attempt to open up relations with Ageira. The man behind that character, @Jonas Valent claimed that Ageira lead was uninterested in pursuing further roleplay with the Hellfire Legion. Skype seems to have eaten the logs, but I'll ask Jonas to retrieve them.

The base was necessary

Except that it wasn't. There's a Xeno base in Ontario which is a system right next to California. You can also dock in Colorado, Pennsylvania, Kepler, Hudson, Minnesota and obviously Vespucci/Alabama. Hell, Ouray's location is so good that you don't even need to use anything else. At least the location could've been picked better, like somewhere in Magellan close to the Vespucci hole, which actually makes sense inRP.

Actually Antonio, it was. You're a member of the memespeak crew so you certainly know that relations between the HF and the Xenos are at an all time low. If you somehow didn't, apologies, but I find that very hard to believe. To elaborate on this for people less aware of the situation, the Xenos act in a very aggressive manner towards foreigners (duh), which the Hellfire Legion isn't exactly cool with. We're even less cool with their occassional hostile actions against Libertonian corporations carrying foreign goods. The HF has nearly had their docking rights on Xeno bases revoked several times since they gained them in 2010, and the situation has only been getting worse. Cutting all ties with the Xenos is not something I particularly want to do, but any Xeno player worth his s a l t will tell you that it is a very real possibility.

With that out of the way, "you can dock on other bases" is still a very poor strawman argument. Would you ask me to delete GC bases because they can dock on Blood Dragon ones, or LWB and Bundschuh bases because they can dock on Hessian ones? The Hellfire Legion and Coalition are the only factions in the game that lacked bases outside of their home systems at the time. Now only the Coalition does, which will be remedied soon. No faction should be limited to only having bases in one system, ever.

As for a location that makes more sense in roleplay, I don't even know what to say to that. Unlawful and lawful factions have bases all over the place. Hesperia's location makes no more or less sense than Ouray, which can actually be seen from the tradelane and was discovered in vanilla.

Now to the construction of the base itself. I see people here requesting that new bases have roleplay behind them, or require some sort of game mechanic in order to be constructed. This is completely and totally unprecedented. Could you really look me in the eye and tell me that your statements here are not about the Hellfire Legion, when several new bases have been added in the Rheinland update such as an LWB base in Frankfurt and a Bundschuh base in New Hampshire? No roleplay was done behind these. No gameplay was done behind these. They were implemented because these factions needed and/or requested bases in these locations, and there's no argument over that at all.

it's about HF getting a BC

The Judicator. What can I even say about the Judicator? Do a thread search for HFBC, HF Battlecruiser, whatever. Every single thread you find will be me and Alley telling you that Alley added it, I did not request it, I was HOMELESS at the time, and I would rather have had a heavy cruiser than a battlecruiser. The community's vitriol on this topic is so consistently misdirected it makes me wonder if people actually bother to read, or just see my name in yellow and decide to flip out when they remember the HF has one.

So that's that, I hope that clears up whatever misconceptions there were, and though I'd like to believe it will, I think the majority of people here are simply interested in going after me for the yellow name and the non vanilla faction I lead. If you want to prove me wrong and say "Hey, sorry, that was a really informative post. Thanks for taking the time to explain things.", it would really make my day.

~ Justin