Allow Nomad Capitals for the indie Nomad ID (and some other changes)

[Lythrilux]

Look at the entire GRN-BAF conflict. Even with all the ID freedoms that conflict is as stagnant as the Order-Nomad conflict.

I don't think that's a good example. There's many other factors that can explain why the conflict has died down which are not related to ID restrictions which I'm sure the leaders of those factions can explain. I don't think the IDs have had any changes in the past several years either. Although interestingly enough GRN has been asking repeatedly to get California ZoI added to the GRN ID (which they haven't reccivied yet) to increase activity and rejuvinate the conflict.

Let's steer closer to home though. Yeah, the Order-Nomad conflict is stagnant. And so is the Core-Nomad conflict. However, the Core-Order conflict isn't stagnant (bar last month and probably this one, it's hard to get my faction logging when I can't log in myself with them, but lets talk generally here). And The Core's conflicts with all it's enemies aren't stagnant either. I don't really know what else Order shoots aside from Core and Nomads. Remembering that the Omicrons are a PvP-orientated region where Caps are the norm, what one important quality is the Nomd ID missing that all the other factions are not? Access to capitals and a reasonably active indiebase, that's what.

I have my own misgivings about people given the Nomad ID, but when the Order was restricted to the Omicrons in caps with the ID changes, it made a lot of bullshizznit end. It could work, but that is up to the official faction. It'd make the fighters fair, possibly. Again, look at the GRN-BAF conflict. I led GRN, and hell, we still were outgunned. One of the few times I remember a fair fight was when Dab, myself, and another Valor kept that one shrimp base's weapons down as our fighters engaged. Was fun. We had a huge fight a few months later, pretty even at first.

The Order being restricted with where the caps go hasn't changed anything though. That line is supposed to stop indies rolling around Sirius with a terrorist ID shooting pretty much anything they want with Ossies, Gebs and Resephs. Core has the same restriction, albeit it was lifted a little to allow them to field caps in all their ZoI rather than just systems withotu jump gates, and that's to prevent indies hunting down Nomads, Order and Wild all over Sirius. It doesn't affect the conflict on the home turf however, as those factions have free access to fly whatever they want. Nomads don't though, which is why you're not getting people logging Nomad fighters to take on Capitals which are the popular ship choice in the Edge Worlds.

But that is a few instances out of multiple ridiculous and utterly idiotic fights I witness while leading the GRN, and I have no doubt Omi has dealt with the same. Could giving Nomad indies access to caps give us more war? Sure. But it also could give us an UNBALANCED war in the end, much like the GRN/BAF war did.

It won't give us an unbalanced war though. The war right now IS unbalanced to the extreme which is why it is not fun for indie Nomads. I want to fight caps becauase I fly caps. The norm IS capital ships. I'm suggesting lifting the restrictions to facilitate the ID to the norm, not break or change it.

But the server can prove us all wrong.


That's my final thoughts on the matter.

Yeah, I think we should trial it.

And I have to agree with Huggie here.

The criers can and will cry, and the Nomads could get nerfed.


What's the fix if that happens, Lyth?

If the ships are broken (which only the Rabisu is) then our PvP devs will balance them. I know for a fact that Haste and co are smart enough to not balance ships because people 'cry' about them. Proper analysis and testing is done before a ship is nerfed, or buffed.

Anyway as I said this is not a PvP balance thread.

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