Zone 21 / Alaska rule Enforcement

[Praetyre]

Ah but your not paying attention.. In real life it wouldn't be a guy coming up claiming to be an 'independent US army soldier' he would simply BE a US soldier. Yes, RM has a leader. However, that leader isn't the leader of the ENTIRE NPC RM.

Occam's Razor. You are presenting a needlessly complicated solution relying upon the existence of 2 identically named organisations, one of which is subordinate to the other. In real life, subordinate sections of militaries are named things like the "100th Battlegroup" or in Navies the "4th Fleet" or in Air Forces "Echelon Wing.". Either these mystery men who supposedly control the mystery RM are idiots with no foresight to see calling a subsection after an overall structure would result in linguistic confusion, or said mystery men and mystery RM don't exist.

If you are going to argue Sirius doesn't have the same types of organisation we do (which, in at least the case of Liberty and the Outcast Armed Forces, is disproven by the existence of the 552nd and the 66th), would you say it is logical or consistent that Emperor Palpatine from Star Wars was merely the head of a subsection within an identically named organisation called the Empire headed over by an unknown Emperor.

There would inevitably someone above him.

Again, Occam's Razor. You are assuming that there is a Gottkanzler and a Kanzler, despite the fact that the Gottkanzler has unilaterally spoke as the Kanzler of House Rheinland many times before. Furthermore, you have provided no evidence for your assertion that there would inevitably be someone above him. Not to mention the fact that the Gottkanzler is worshipped by Rheinland's state religion, the Kirche die Grunnen Alders. Why wouldn't they put their *deity* at the highest post?

Just because your a PC faction with the name and affiliation to match the NPC faction doesn't mean you control it and only people who are in your faction are that NPC faction.

I don't know about you, but when I see an organisation called (for example) the US Navy headed over by a Fleet Admiral, I'd assume that's the naval forces of the United States. I'm sure most other people would, as well. The administrators continue to allow the existence of factions with unilateral names and ranks.

Once they have the ID and tag, they ARE that faction. Not 'independent US army soldier' just a US army soldier. They have ID so now they are impersonating? I'll go off the beaten tracks of diplomatic speaking and say what that is; Stupid. Idiotic.

If someone killed a General and stole his uniform, does that bestow upon the killer the rank of General? You are assuming IDs magically grant legitimacy, (while providing absolutely no evidence whatsoever for your claim) when they don't in RP (otherwise it wouldn't be illegal to wear the uniforms of soldiers in most circumstances) and by server rules (since the admins allow the existence of unilateral factions.)

Anyone with a Zoner ID and tag is a Zoner. Not independent Zoner while TAZ are the only Zoners. He is simply a Zoner. We only use independent to describe people who simply aren't in the PC faction. But that description was never meant to say, and should never mean, that those people simply aren't that faction. If someone wants to play as an RM VHF, he has that right, and the RM PC faction does NOT have the right to tell him otherwise. If I do find that RM go and say; "You can't be RM IDd/Tagged unless your in our faction" then I WOULD go to admins, even to Igiss if need be, as its a complete abuse of power and disregards the rights of the players. This is a game, not a powergrab.

A strawman argument, which I have debunked countless times. I have never, ever stated that I believed that all factions should shut out independents. I have repeatedly and clearly stressed in previous threads regarding this subject that I believe that military/police factions have the RIGHT (not the duty. I have no issue with Unseelie's policy towards BAF, for example), which is backed by the fundamental structure and behaviour of real world militaries towards the overall composition of roleplay as a member of a military to impose such restrictions. I do not support nor believe that any non-police/military faction has the right to do so nor that the administators should pick sides in this issue.

Please provide evidence for your claim of "rights". If you want to cite the RM ID, you should take that up with the administrators.

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