Oh, and @"Omicega" - It is impressive how you decided to ignore basically all that I said (assuming that the whole "disheartening" thing was directed at me. If not, disregard this.) I have nowhere, never, and will never, stated that PvP is not RP or out of Roleplay or whatever. What I object to is the bluehunting and ooRP pursuing of PvP and PvP only, and disregarding the RP behind it. One example: I would be completely fine with meeting a GRN patrol and getting silently engaged, because talking to your enemies is usually rare. What I would not be fine with is someone going "chop chop chop" or "baguette et croissant. Fromage, Fromage. You die, honhonhon", which is completely and utterly ooRP and aside from that absolutely dumb and only done to be a dick. Or logging in force around an enemies homebase and camping there, completely destroying the fun of the people sitting there etc. PvP is an essential part of RP, and yes, it is absolutely necessary to regard it as a part of the server. My point however is that having a war just for the sake of ooRP "activity" is hardly good for Roleplay quality, but explaining this to some people here is usually as effective as hitting a concrete wall with your fist, since they will just disregard it as "lol, this dude doesn't want to get gud, he doesn't like PvP, he's a Cyburrr"