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Poll: What factions should be allowed INTO Alaska through New York?
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Just LSF, Liberty Navy
31.39%
43 31.39%
Bounty Hunter Guild
5.11%
7 5.11%
The Order
2.92%
4 2.92%
The Order + recruits (starfliers)
6.57%
9 6.57%
Under orders/permission from LSF/Navy player factions
27.01%
37 27.01%
Lock the gate for good
3.65%
5 3.65%
Don't change it
23.36%
32 23.36%
Total 137 vote(s) 100%
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Alaska Opinion Poll
Offline Laowai
05-07-2008, 05:28 AM,
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' Wrote:The point isn't so much that, as it is how everyone, their uncle, their dog, and the girl of questionable taste from a few nights back has the codes to go back through. And often does.

Also, the main problem isn't so much the abuse of Artifacts (most indie Corsairs whore diamonds, then buy capships, and most factions know better) as it is the abuse of Cardamine. There is a hellishly fast route that goes Ibiza -> Omicron-90 -> Omicron Major* -> Omicron 100** -> Omicron Minor -> Alaska -> NY.

On occasion, this is done with very good RP. The rest of the time, people will start yelling in OOC system when the Navy is like "WHOA, cardamine smuggler coming out of Alaska- KILL HIM!!!" which is totally reasonable for them to say. THAT is why Alaska needs to be made a system for RP. If even one halfway profitable trade route goes through it, it will get whored by omg lol noobz.
* The Dyson sphere inside. How the hell anyone could get out of that deathtrap these days escapes me. Remember, Trent cheated.

** The Order guard system. If the Order doesn't police the route to Alaska, they WILL police this.


Well - Give an example, a Corsair sells the codes to a Junker....

Suddenly everyone has it - the semantics of this are not the point, the point is that it is very easy to justify a good and plausible RP reason why someone might have those codes. Which means that the onus then falls back on the Liberty Factions to police the gate.


I cant speak to the cardamine route, whenever i have used alaska its been hauling artifacts only.

@Tenacity - your point is a good one and i think it is at the heart of another issue. Which is the issue of player factions dictating what independents can and cant fly.
I personally strongly disagree with this if the Indy RP's well. I'm like you - except i dont want to do it in a fighter (for my own reasons) - give me a gunboat or up and i will happily sit outside that minefield... But i dont want to join a player faction. I'm happy to work with them, go by the rules, but they dont want that, it doesn't suit their Role play, so they restrict yours.
I know those players will object to what im saying here, but this is only my opinion.
Indys have a use... but these factions cut them out, then complain when they are unable to police their systems.. a case in point:

Corsairs have not as yet restricted these Indy caps in Omicron Gamma - now, there is a vigorous debate among the Corsairs players right now as to ways to control, integrate or work with these Indys... this debate is still ongoing, and to various levels of success these indys that stick around to get integrated (my character is an example of that)
But - one practical upshot of having those indys in caps around Crete? You try getting something in there, or getting by unchallenged.... Not so easy sometimes.

This is a side issue to the pole, but believe that in your case, they relate.


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