Admin Decision on the Banned Six

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@Skype stuff, can't be bothered to write it properly
[18:52:46] alley: some people believe because skype has been taken into account for a single instance that wasn't even processed under the ruleset that every bit of skype stuff is now ground for evidence
[18:53:10] alley: if you think about it for 10 seconds you easily realize it's not

It was an exceptional processing, don't expect skype to be the new meta.

What gives you the right to process Skype logs as evidence towards a permanent ban, branding them as malicious, whilst meanwhile you act maliciously to other forum users via Skype PM, for example making racist comments directly towards Lyth?

Ah but wait, it was "exceptional processing". You can continue to get away with being as nasty to other forum members over Skype as you want because you're not in the crosshairs, right?

There is and always has been extreme cases where Skype evidence was brought to the table to be evaluated. While it isn't frequently admissible as evidence, there are specific points which are discussed heavily and weighed in upon. While Skype might be outside the community, if the evidence points to malicious actions or plans of such, it involves the community health in general. If it's just a bad attitude, then there's no reason it should be included. It's situational based, not broad swept and collected to show they're not nice.

Understandable. Although you missed my point.

So you're saying that making fun of a banned member in a faction chat is completely fine? Is being racist towards the banned member via PMs also fine? Is talking with malicious intent and bragging about trolling another player, whilst generally displaying a poor attitude, fine? I'm talking about an official faction chat. You know what I'm talking about V. A chat that has about twenty members in; do you personally think that is okay? Twenty members get to see complete crap being said about that member. I don't think that is fine, and if Skype evidence is being used to permanently ban members, why isn't Alley banned yet? Why aren't other members of this community not banned yet?

This is a product of the flimsy manner we have been using Skype logs up to this point. If we use it for a case like Karst, why are we not applying it to all cases? Maliciousness is maliciousness. People shouldn't have a free pass to act horrible to others because it was "exceptional processing". If Skype enters the fray as evidence it either needs to be used in its entirety or not at all. Either way the manner in which it's been used is sporadic and misleading on the part of the Staff. And in alley's case - or any other community member's case - it's double standard.

Also on the subject of Lyth, as his evidence is not Skype based (and are extremely poor justifications for a 6 month ban) there isn't really any concrete basis for keeping him banned at all. I don't see why he can't be put on probation like the other 4, as his evidence was forum-based and not detrimental in the slightest.