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Server Rules Contradiction
Offline Xoria
05-11-2008, 12:56 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-11-2008, 12:59 PM by Xoria.)
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Quote:5.3 Attacking characters of level 29 and below is prohibited. Characters under level 30 cannot be attacked by players of any level, except if they have non-Civilian ID onboard, and except cases of self-defense.

Quote:6.8 Civilian ID that is given to beginning freelancers allows to attack:

- For players below level 30: players of similar level below level 30, or any players above level 30.
- For players between level 30 and 39: any players of level 30 and above.
- For players of level 40 and higher: using Civilian ID is illegal, no PvP allowed.

Every member of The Lane Hackers has to pass an exam on the server PvP rules before receiving their first promotion. One of our latest recruits brought this to my attention.
Server rule 5.3 and Server rule 6.8 contradict each other.
Rule 5.3 states that "under 30's" cannot be attacked unless they have a non-civilian ID or if its a matter of self-defense. No exception is given for an "under 30" civilian to attack another "under 30" civilian. The lack of that exception in this rule prohibits that.
Rule 6.8 states that "under 30" civilians can attack other "under 30" civilians.
I suppose one could conclude that rule 6.8 contains additional exceptions for rule 5.3, BUT I recall that when PvP was turned on in NY, there was a great deal of administrative upset over "under 30" civilians attacking other "under 30" civilians, and there was also a barn-stormer of a debate about changing these rules to make civilians completely offlimits while they were under level 30, and non-civilian IDs are fair game at any level. I remember this distinctly because I was on the losing side of the debate.
So my best guess is that Rule 6.8 needs an update, or Rule 5.3 needs to point to Rule 6.8 as containing further exceptions.
Since members of The Lane Hackers spend a considerable amount of time in Mk 1 ships as under-level civilians while earning a Dagger and then a Hacker tag and ID, and then more time Hacker Tagged and ID'd in a Dagger, this actually IS a burning issue for us, and we request a Rule clarification.
The big problem is that certain attacks are allowed under Rule 6.8 that are violations of Rule 5.3.
Is this a big issue? Yes, I think it is. The question in the LH PvP exam dealing with this issue is more frequently answered wrong than right (I'd say at least 70-80% get it wrong on the first try), and that must reflect the confusion that these two rules are creating by contradicting each other.
Even if I am reading it wrong and there is no contradiction, nearly every person who joins LH is confused by this issue and can't answer a question about it correctly on the first attempt. Take a look at the LH recruitment thread and I think you'll see the exceptional quality of LH recruits. If such players can't understand this, then the general player base is not understanding it either, and that makes for problems.

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Messages In This Thread
Server Rules Contradiction - by Xoria - 05-11-2008, 12:56 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by Spear - 05-11-2008, 01:09 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by Jinx - 05-11-2008, 01:34 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by Xoria - 05-11-2008, 01:57 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by Spear - 05-11-2008, 02:06 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by mwerte - 05-11-2008, 02:39 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by sovereign - 05-12-2008, 05:00 AM
Server Rules Contradiction - by chovynz - 05-12-2008, 05:20 AM
Server Rules Contradiction - by Igiss - 05-15-2008, 01:36 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by song - 05-15-2008, 04:04 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by cmfalconer - 05-15-2008, 04:15 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by Igiss - 05-15-2008, 08:12 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by chovynz - 05-16-2008, 12:00 AM
Server Rules Contradiction - by ParanoidAndroid - 05-16-2008, 07:37 AM
Server Rules Contradiction - by Xoria - 05-17-2008, 01:53 PM
Server Rules Contradiction - by chovynz - 05-18-2008, 07:42 AM
Server Rules Contradiction - by Xoria - 05-18-2008, 01:15 PM

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