(08-09-2016, 09:36 PM)Char Aznable Wrote: The issue is though: The time that I have been on the devteam Alley, I asked for the change at least three times in the Skype chat, plus my constant asking in the FSRs, which they claim to be "helpful for evaluating the status of factions". The correspondency was used, and if the team continues to ignore it for multiple months, it in fact is and Admin fault.
That's not saying that the Admins are the only ones at fault here. If you look over my first post, the devteam did some dumb stuff as well, but the particular case you are arguing here was the fault of the greens. Period.
I wasn't specifically referring to the Exile ZOI problem. This blaming has been happening every once in a while because someone didn't do his part of it at some point (and that goes for both devs and admins).
In the case of the Exile ZOI update while it was pointed out in the 343 FSRs there hasn't been any actual ID adjustement request from the dev team to the admin team at all. So while I agree there's been a failure on the admin side for not acting for several months over that point coming up over and over in your FSR, there's still the issue that no developer (read those that were in charge of admin/dev communication, not all devs) haven't submitted an actual request to the admins to apply any change to Exile related IDs. It's even more worrying that it wasn't brought to the attention of King Boo (whom was the only devmin at the time) more than that internally on the yellow side.
There's an incredible lot going on for the admins at all time and without proper, structured requests things will be missing. Most admins don't have the ability to keep up (or are even informed) of what the dev team do and as long as there isn't any proper patch deployment procedure problems of this kind will continue to arise.
To put it in perspective, this is just like being contracted to develop a new website module and when you have finished developing it you hand over the module to the client but don't provide any deployment procedure or sql script. It's the same thing here. The devs need to provide a proper deployment document to discovery server operators (not just 24/7) when they roll out a major release.