Roleplay ?

[McNeo]

@mwerte: I mentioned both ship and weapon choices, as we think as a body that we should be allowed both.
I can see your point of view though.

Gronath did not leave a lot of room for maneuvre with his post concerning point of views. The ambiguity he used was the bare minimum without siding with one side, which I applaud. On the wider aspect of his post though, the indies vs the factions, I still maintain that anyone should be allowed a gunboat or a cruiser unless they prove otherwise. In the cases presented, they all proved otherwise, but I do not think a blanket measure such as the RM have taken is the way forward.

I was tempted to a similar measure myself as were a lot of the Corsairs, but Laowai more or less on his own stopped us. Probably for the better, I feel. But to say I dont agree and believe myself completely right is a lie. There are always exceptions and I hate it when people have to put up with the things that some do. However, one of the worst places is in Gamma and I have seen a slow but sure movement towards RP there, despite the lack of restrictions. Sure, its basic now and many mistakes and continuity errors are made by some pilots, but I think this is a better way forward than a preliminary ban which discourages even people like me from making an independant Rheinland Military character. Rheinland is my favourite house if I do not take into account my Japanese heritage (which I almost never do anyway) and the Valkyrie and Banshee were two of my favourite models in vanilla, surpassing the Titan by miles in their beauty. Its worth noting that I find industrial art to be very inventive and the functionality with which the Rheinland ships are designed really attracts me to them. But I wont make one because of the red tape.

Sorry, that was a bit off topic.

I will admit that I have "hardened" over the period of time I've been here, mostly recently actually. But when I look back on it, I once imagined that we could all have good fights and all be friends regardless of where our loyalties lie. This used to be the case but is not now, simply because of the size.
I do not see, perhaps because I am blind, how it is fair that we are forced to adapt yet again after we get the upper hand. I try not to mindlessly oppose everything, but I guess I just dont try hard enough.

And it does hurt when the effort you've put into something is blatantly disregarded, disqualified and undermined. No wonder some become very aggressive.

This is how both sides feel when we have these arguements. I reckon I feel this a lot more than some on our "side of the fence" if you will, as this is more than just a game to me. Maybe it shouldn't be, but thats like telling people that they can't fly under their own power with the birds in the sky. Whether they can or can't, they will dream it. When the dream is torn away from them, and they have their hearts set on it in the most dedicated way possible, they may go our and invent something to allow self powered flight, much like some did in the Victorian era. Then you put effort and genuine love and care into the development of your dream to traverse the bridge of fiction to reality. How would you feel if the goal you've been working towards is completed, yet you cannot use it because of "health and safety". Heartbroken.

Of course, that is a grossly exaggerated way of putting the situation. However, it is good to think in these terms because there is most likely someone here that feels something close to this. It may or may not be me for the right or wrong reasons. But it is not good enough to cast them aside and say "its only a game" when, to them, it just isn't.

I also agree with Scornstar on being more tolerant of new people. Whether its pretty generic or not and whether it requires imagination to think up or not, we were once in that position. In fact, the first ships I remember flying were a Kusari Battleship and an Outcast dreadnought with zero RP behind them. I also had a Helghast Spatial with 4 Codenames, 2 Kracken mk IIs and 3 Tizzy turrets. Extreme cases again, but I am sure that most of the ships that each of us pilotted were ooRP in some way.

But it is hard indeed for me to preech tolerance when I appear to show very little to others. I hope that me stating that I differentiate new guys from the older more established portion of the community as well as our agreed policy on capital ships in Gamma may show people that Im not such a childish idiot.

@cmfalconer: On this subject, many hold many different views. While I think that would definately be suitable for the houses, I do not think that it would be suitable for pirates. Generally, pirates are a little freer within their own faction about who does what, where and how. Thats my perception and I work rightly or wrongly to keep it that way. It seems to work, just slower than the other options we could take.