Admin Feedback Thread (Archived)

[Char Aznable]

I am just going to ask some questions here Justin.

If we begin a vote to remove the current admin team, and the vote would not reach a conclusive majority (something like, hmm, 60-70% of the community, excluding Alts), would you then finally stop constantly grinding the gears to a halt with your constant hatemongering (and this question goes towards you, but is really addressing all of the "bittervets". I will get to that in a minute. Oh, and as just pointed out to me - the oversimplification in what you are actually asking for is intentional, but might not get across, therefore this clarification.

And by the same logic, if we were to remove the Admins by popular vote, should the same not apply to devs? And don't even try to use the skill argument, there's skill involved in administering a community just as much as there is modding a game. And if you are of the opinion that the devs should be excluded from this rule for some other reason, you might want to consider if you are actually doing this discussion here for the reason you claim to do, or if there are not some ulterior motives behind that that you're maybe not even aware of yourself.

As for the "bittervets" jumping on the hate train here: You complain that the Admins don't have a spine for years, not doing anything, and claim that they're the problem. Then they actually do show a spine, and you're angry as well. Do you know why you're angry? Because they didn't cater to your needs for once. You're not entitled to demand anything just because your join date is before a certain time, or because you have seen Admins rise and fall, or because you lead a faction. What you are entitled to is to demand that the Admins are doing their job, and you are free to criticize them. I would still like if you would think before you go out and claim conspiracies or that everything is done just to harm you, because your constant lashing out just gets tiring for everyone, including yourself. If you disagree with a system, try to be constructive instead of insultive.

Oh, and don't think you're getting away here, Admins. While I am heavily critical of the ones using this thread venting their frustration over whatever is wrong in their opinion instead of engaging in constructive communication, you are not even trying to ease the tension. Yes, you are the administrators of this server, and you decide in the end, but that does neither make you immune to criticism nor does it justify an incredibly complex and opaque way of working. We're a community, and while you are on the top of it, that does include a certain responsibility to hear everybody's opinion if possible, be they angry or sad. You don't have to do what they ask, but what you have to do is at least try to communicate. Your constant silence is breeding this mood just as much as the hatemobs are.

So the tl;dr for normal people: You're behaving like children. All of you. Stop flinging fecal matter at each other and talk it out like grown adults. ALL of you.

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