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Remove POB regulation double standards from rules

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Poll: How should POB protection/regulation rules change?
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1. Remove restrictions of house lawfuls and let them regulate/shoot POBs in their whole ZOI fully again
47.27%
26 47.27%
2. Restrict unlawfuls/quasi-lawfuls to regulate/shoot POBs only outside of Houses Capital Systems
7.27%
4 7.27%
3. Restrict unlawfuls/quasi-lawfuls to regulate/shoot POBs only outside of Sovereign House Space systems
21.82%
12 21.82%
4. Keep rules as they are now
20.00%
11 20.00%
5. Other (suggest posted discussion)
3.64%
2 3.64%
Total 55 vote(s) 100%
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Remove POB regulation double standards from rules
Offline Jack_Henderson
09-13-2016, 11:56 AM, (This post was last modified: 09-13-2016, 11:58 AM by Jack_Henderson.)
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Hey Laura.

Hm, I get your point with Option 2, however I see the problem of putting it into a rule that can be written in a way that makes it compact enough. I mean, how do you define these zones?

In my opinion, this takes us right back where Disco somewhat is weird. Example NY shows it: Infocards say that large parts of NY are not controllable and no one goes into the southern Badlands. That's Disco's main system. And it is not controlled at all.

I totally agree with you that there cannot be a Sair-IFF base in the Orbit of New Berlin or in visible range of any lawful base. And, on second thought, there should be an option to kill it IF it ever was built. I mean, however: has this ever happened? In all the time of POB building, I cannot remember a single case - but correct me if I am wrong there.

Going back to the NY-Badlands example, in my opinion the nebulas in southern o7 (far enough away from DHC base) classify as "definitely not under control". It's a equally rough or even rougher than NY badlands in my imagination (which also might differ from yours, though).

So, should a POB be able to be built there in O7 (far away from lanes, far from DHC southern base, inside nebula) without taxation and laws enforced onto it by Houses?
I think: Defintely.
I would see it like the Rogue Destroyer in NY, or other hidden unlawful NPC bases in core systems.

I also do not see what your problem with "grey bases" is.
What is the problem about an irp "smuggler base"?
We have money laundering shops, gang controlled parts of the economy right in front of our noses in RL, every day.
Why would it be different in Disco?

A POB that resells e.g. Sair artifacts should work in Disco. It's a pretty cool thing and could give POBs another reason to exist outside the (unwanted) role of blocking/area denial bases or boring ore storage.

If people accepted that access to the POB does not mean they can see the shop's list fully, we could change the rules there. But that's gameplaywise impossible. I mean, the shady trader in the bar would not show his goods to the RFP inspector - but of course in gameplay the whole shop is open to anybody who can dock.

However because players do assume that their chars can see the complete shop, roleplay like "your base sells X! X is contraband! Your base will be attacked if you do not..." rp has happened before. And - in my opinion - a smuggler base is a lot cooler and can provide a lot more incentive to interact than the boring "we build cloaks" base, or the "we sell ore" base.

Look at Junker bases. 40 k from Planet Manhattan. A Junker base that sells Cardamine.
If NPC bases in main systems have the status of "safe", POBs in Borderworlds need to have the same.
No one has docked on the Junker base in NY and fined/threatened the NPC Junkers with dire consequences bc they have illegal goods there.

I am not fully content with the "Keep as is" option, but I think it is the only option that averts more damage.

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Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Laura C. - 09-10-2016, 01:56 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by SkyNet - 09-10-2016, 02:27 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by nOmnomnOm - 09-10-2016, 02:42 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Laura C. - 09-10-2016, 02:57 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Arbs - 09-10-2016, 03:18 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Stoner_Steve - 09-10-2016, 11:13 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Wildkins - 09-10-2016, 11:22 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Arbs - 09-10-2016, 11:32 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Demonic - 09-11-2016, 05:56 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Sorrontis - 09-11-2016, 07:24 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by MrCharles - 09-11-2016, 07:18 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Mr.Fabulous - 09-11-2016, 07:27 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Laura C. - 09-11-2016, 10:24 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Demonic - 09-11-2016, 11:08 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Laura C. - 09-11-2016, 11:49 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Petitioner - 09-11-2016, 07:31 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Mr.Fabulous - 09-11-2016, 07:45 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Durandal - 09-11-2016, 08:14 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Demonic - 09-11-2016, 08:43 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by MrCharles - 09-11-2016, 08:26 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Epo - 09-11-2016, 08:34 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Mr.Fabulous - 09-11-2016, 09:25 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by NoMe - 09-11-2016, 10:23 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Kruger - 09-11-2016, 10:33 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Mr.Fabulous - 09-11-2016, 12:41 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Laura C. - 09-11-2016, 01:07 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Jack_Henderson - 09-12-2016, 11:43 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Laura C. - 09-12-2016, 01:08 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Thyrzul - 09-12-2016, 12:50 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by nOmnomnOm - 09-12-2016, 01:08 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Laura C. - 09-12-2016, 01:23 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by nOmnomnOm - 09-12-2016, 01:16 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Laura C. - 09-12-2016, 01:26 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by nOmnomnOm - 09-12-2016, 01:28 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by nOmnomnOm - 09-12-2016, 01:28 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by sindroms - 09-12-2016, 01:54 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Laura C. - 09-12-2016, 02:01 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Landers - 09-13-2016, 07:58 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Zayne Carrick - 09-13-2016, 09:50 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Jack_Henderson - 09-13-2016, 11:56 AM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Stoner_Steve - 11-13-2016, 02:37 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Shiki - 11-13-2016, 02:41 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Benoit - 11-13-2016, 04:49 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Epo - 11-13-2016, 05:14 PM
RE: Remove POB regulation double standards from rules - by Wesker - 11-13-2016, 05:30 PM

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