Destroying slaver transports

[Sarawr!?]

Note: the intention of this thread is not to flame any faction, but to discuss the morale of destroying slaver transports. The bellow scenario is just one of many possible.

Here's a classic scenario: Pilgrim Series Slave Liner jumps into Tau-23 system, its cargo hold full of slaves (3900). As the liner approaches the Tau-37 JH a group of =CR= fighters & bombers closes in on the slaver from Java base. The way is blocked, CD are being fired upon the transport and the ship is basically a sitting duck. He refuses to drop the slaves off on the FP 10 or into space. Colonials blow the slaver transport up and its cargo (slaves) is floating in space.

Now, it's easy to RP it that the slaves are alive & well, enjoying the space walk, but IMO, that's very far from realistic scenario. Just imagine what would happen if a big ship full of people would really blow up. Those slaves are crammed into their holding cells, they have no escape pods. When the fires and explosions start, with life support and artificial gravity failing, slaves become minced meat. What floats in space, after the transport is destroyed, are not alive slaves, safely tucked in their escape pods, but dismembered corpses. Even if you order a slaver to drop those slaves into space, you sentence them to cold & quick death. The temperature of space is -273 C. One could survive that only in a space suit/escape pod (fighter pilots).

There is no doubt about the depravity of slavers or of those who support them. No doubt at all! But what about the so-called noble "space knights" who destroy transports full of slaves and kill thousands of innocent lives? They claim their motives are noble. That may be so, but what about the results of their actions? One could argue that if they had let the slaver transport pass, the slaves would have died on cardamine plantations anyway, so it really makes no difference. Well, perhaps not in the game, but lets not forget that this is a role-play community where we try to mimic real life. I don't know about you, but in real life, I would never ever ever think about blowing up a transport full of people. That is pure terrorism. No law-abiding group of people would resort to that.

A suggestion: to let the slaver transport pass is not an option, of course. If the captain refuses to let the slaves free on the nearest lawful base, you may choose to do one of the following:

• bring transport's hull down to 10%, or to critical, and persuade him to give you his cargo
  
• shoot off all of his weapons & equipment
  
• put a nice bounty on the slaver
  
• destroy the slaver's ship next time he passes you with any other kind of cargo
  
• (open to suggestions / your input)
  

I think you sir, raise an excellent point and one that I agree with completely.

(Now, the Heavy Metal Queen has never been popped, at least not with Slaves aboard.)

BUT IF SHE WAS, Sure, you'd have the nice 3900 Slaves floating in space, in reality, would they be alive? pfft, no, not in the least bit. They don't have escape pods, they don't have space suits, You would have 3900 corpses floating in space.

I think that things like this should be looked into a little bit more, and Roleplay in these types of situations should be encouraged even stronger by faction leadership and the community at large.

However, of course if you are dealing with an OORP PowerSlaver who won't respond to you in any way at all, eat him or her. (the HMQ eats PowerSlavers too, for 'stealing her profits') xD

But generally, Roleplay should happen more often in these situations as opposed to going "HEY THAT SLAVER ISN'T STOPPING, KILL HIM AND 'RESCUE' THE SLAVES!"

Because no, it doesn't work that way, a Slaver or even a Slave Transporter isn't going to go out of their way to give 3900 Slaves spacesuits and adequate protection from the environment, and they're certainly not going to keep enough Escape Pods aboard for the Slaves to get off the ship safely.

So again, I completely agree with the point made here.

Edit: And no, I'm not saying that Slavers should use the "If you kill me my cargo dies" excuse all the time (of course this can be played upon in some cases)

and on the flipside of that same coin, I think that lawfuls who are indeed going to pop a slaver should accept the fact that yes, if they kill the slaver, the slaves will die, instead of Rping that they rescued the floating slaves, because as mentioned, it doesn't work that way.

So go ahead and kill the Slavers, but don't try to make it a complete win when it isn't, kill a slaver, lose the slaves, you still get to nail the Slaver.

Victory requires sacrifice after all, no?

Edit Numero Dos: My Over all point here, is that more Role Play should be happening between lawfuls and Slavers, I mean hell, if a Slaver can Role-play their way out of capture, why not let them try? Or if a lawful can convince a slaver in RP to release their slaves, why not let them try?

Also: No, I'm not saying it should be as if the lawfuls catch you and give you a slap on the wrist for slaving. What I'm saying is, why is it impossible that a Slaver could give some incentive to the local law to get them to look the other way? or why is it impossible that some of them could be bought out? No, I'm not saying every 'lawful' should be bribable and corrupt, what I mean is, add some character depth/variety here, instead of making every 'lawful' character pure as a White Knight.

It doesn't always have to end with a blue message.

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