(10-21-2016, 11:19 PM)Antonio Wrote: When you're making a POB you know what you're getting yourself into and accept the risk that it might get threatened, attacked and destroyed one day. Might. It entirely depends on the actions of you and your friends or faction. One thing I know for sure though is that people don't blow up bases "just because". Let's look at our most popular POB recently, Reutligen. The only reason 90% of the people are sieging it is because it's in the mining field. Nothing else. If the base was outside of the field, nobody would care. There's always a good enough reason behind the siege because the siege mechanic itself is very unrewarding, boring and exhausting. No person wants to waste hours of his life afk right clicking an object if he doesn't have a good reason to. Mining field POB? Gives pretty much everyone a good reason, it's one of the most harmful things in terms of player interaction possible on the server.
A, he's not asking for PoB not being blown, he's asking for the siege to actually cost the attackers something.
B, The fact that Reutligen is not OK is quite accepted. What I do not accept though, is this siege beginning after one short thread in the spirit of "pay or dai". The siege is fully ooRP as of now. Because that lame excuse of a thread is not enough RP in my eyes. Develop some decent RP if you really want to destroy that thing. Ends do not justify means. and blowing up a base ooRPly because it's against the rules is douchebagery.
(10-21-2016, 11:35 PM)Stygian Wrote: TL;DR, My type of fun is more important than yours.
Sorry for such a short reply but that is all these types of rants boil down to. Really, PvP is a type of roleplay.
PvP is not a type of roleplay mate. PvP is PvP, nothing more nothing less. A skill driven player fight. It is a part of RP, sure, but not it's type. And mind I remind you Disco is RP server? Go shoot something on different server if you so desire, or accept the fact that any fight should be driven by some RP reason here on this server.
(10-21-2016, 11:55 PM)Sanctions Wrote: Toxic post inc.
Carry the responsibility for your actions. Going for a tamagochi toy knows as "PoB"? Expect the consequences, diplomacy and connections are your best friends in that case.
You realise the absence of peeveepee skills? Well, then either go train hard as heck or avoid any interactions by being neutral (even ID-wise).
Stronger ones will always abuse their powers, no one's going to babysit you, kind of like it is IRL.
So, is it okay for the strong ones to abuse their powers? Even here, in a blasted GAME that is supposed to be fun?
(10-21-2016, 11:55 PM)Sanctions Wrote: Some players are here solely for PvP and you can't do anything about that but cry, it was purely a PvP game after all while RP which came with this mod was an addition allowing the further logical development of the whole thing.
It's just every year that someone like you come here and whine about how harsh local environments are and how badly things need to be changed. And thankfully there are still vets around that won't let this thing turn utter craps because of newbies who couldn't handle some aspects (btw a good portion of players stay useless even after being here for years). Some implementations have already influenced the gameplay in a bad way, can't go any further.
Nothing personal, but power is an achievement.
I'm sorry but if someone is here just for PvP then he should stay in Conn, learn RP at least a bit, or go to different server. Discovery is an RP server. Freelancer is skill based space shooter. Merged together it crates a unique environment and you can't just put aside what you don't like.
PoB owners can't make their bases invicible, but on the other side, the PvP croud should realize they are not allowed to put RP aside and shoot just 'cause.
On the topic of the recent drama theme, Reutligen, I'll quote what I wrote on skype somewhere.
"the fact the base is in a grey area of rules and harmfull behaviour is there and we all know it. The way how RHA handles this thing is toxic and bad."
The threat and the subsequent attack came out of the blue, with illogical RP reasoning. While I support the idea the base whould be moved (well or destroyed as a last case scenario) I do not agree with ends justyfing the means. Do it properly or don't do it at all.
