Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. (Feedback Time)

[Blodwyn O'Driscoll]

If it's clearly understandable that Bretonian, exhausted by two wars and surrounded by enemies, would try to have Rheinland protecting o-3. In fact Bretonia should not be able to hold omega-3 properly without endangering its other frontsor collapsing at all, so let's not speak about patroling omega-7.

Bretonia does not invite Rheinland in the way you think we would do - to act as our protectors. The whole point is to allow them officially to defend their Dauman base (located in O-3) on top of warming our relations by doing so due to the increased numbers of threats in the Omegas, which I believe you are aware of. It is a complicated cooperation. The Omega Alliance we are discussing with Rheinland is huge bold step between the Houses - something that would allow us to defend our border worlds properly against the omega enemies which are rising threat at the moment. Also Omega-3 is legit Bretonian sovereign territory and believe it or not - there is a Civil Defence Initiative small fleet orbiting planet Sprague, assisted by small number of ships from Norfolk and some BPA patrols. Bretonia can defend well Omega-3 but only against certain enemies. If these enemies combine things might go wrong - here comes Rheinland. Same goes for Omega-7, considering the RHA recent hostile actions against Bretonia - we believe its time to finally unite with Rheinland and support each other against all these common enemies as Houses.

I guess the situation is quite different for Rheinland, even if the last war with Liberty should have left the former ( or both of them ) bled dry... somehow. My question would be what is the interrest of rheinland to protect Bretonia ? Isn't rheinland having already home issues ? IS this a way to create an opportunity to size O-3 for itself ?

You are right - Rheinland suffered a lot as well. And they need cash to build ships - believe it or not Bretonia still holds all the Gold in Sirius so we have a lot to offer each other and the benefits would be inRP mutual. And stop saying "Rheinland protecting Bretonia" ...whole day reading exaggerated stuff. Calm down and read the so far proposed treaty - we are inviting a small task force not an entire fleet. I think it is pointless to discuss future RP stuff without them being done yet in RP, so enough already. Rheinland is in no position to cause harm to Bretonia and is out of there interest as a whole. Both sides can benefit greatly. Bretonia will gain a lot of resources from Rheinland and in return deliver what they need as well.

I guess someone's triggered...


Well, i'll still answer something on the subject :

Also Omega-3 is legit Bretonian sovereign territory and believe it or not - there is a Civil Defence Initiative small fleet orbiting planet Sprague, assisted by small number of ships from Norfolk and some BPA patrols. Bretonia can defend well Omega-3 but only against certain enemies.

Noone is saying that o-3 is not a soveriegn territory, protectorate, or whatever you call it. And the point wasn't about the treaty between Rheinland and Bretonia.... Simply that considering the war with Kusari, then Gallia, and the number of prowerfull enemies lying in the omegas ( AKA : corsairs and Hessians ) it's simply unrealistic to believe that Bretonia is able to defend omega-3 on its own. Hence this treaty , i suppose. And let's not speak about Sprague that is more likely to become an issue than an asset, due to the way the whole colonisation/deportation was done..
So considering this point, it would be surprising to see Bretonia willing to sacrifice even a few fighters in omega-7.


The other point i wanted to underligne was : i can't find any mention of Baf vessels alowance to enter o-7 in this treaty... So why would the ZOI would be changeg for bret ships ( as announced ) ?

Would the Corsairs or Hessians have not been able to push onward in o-3 and capture some of the less defended stations, especially thoses far away from the lanes ? Lot of question, right.

You know "Ingame actions =/= RP lore" but still...veterans like us love to RP any possible outcome...that is why we decided to act and push this Omega Alliance - to prevent such unlawful raids which would possibly lead to capturing bases. Call it - preparation for a storm that might or might not hit us. That is why it all makes sense.

But to put it bluntly : i found this additional ZOIs, not really matching the current course of events ( i would say even, the contrary of the current situation ) . Am i the only one to see it through the lens of RP ?

If you read what I said or paid attention to the developments of Omega-3 issues/events since 1 year...you would never ask this question in first place. I don't know how others RP around but from Bretonia point of view - we are always following the statement of "RP actions lead to RP consequences". So what we do now is reflection to the events that happened during this last year.

Is this answer some sort of straw man fallacy ? Sorry, don't buy it...