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Zoner ID line addition

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Poll: What line should be on the Zoner ID
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No change to what the Admins added
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14 33.33%
Line changed to enforce Zoner laws in systems with Zoner bases (Delta in this case if you want to limit it to one system)
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Zoner ID line addition
Offline Sombs
01-09-2017, 09:13 PM,
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(01-09-2017, 08:20 PM)Black Widow Wrote:
(01-09-2017, 07:57 PM)Sombra Hookier Wrote: Zoners live outside house security, thus they needed to come up with something to protect themselves from Nomads and other groups. The Nephilim is not a warship, it is a mobile colony ship, and just like any other base, it should have the capabilities of defending itself. The problem is not the ship. The problem is the lolwuts using it, as I'm complaining about them constantly. I have yet to encounter someone using the Nephilim in a way that is acceptable.

The same goes for the Aquilon. It is a Carrier, just like there is a civilian carrier out there. Carriers are Carriers, they carry smaller stuff. Nephilims are city ships with biodomes. Warships are warships. They are purely made for combat. The Nephilim is intended for defending a huge environment where people live on, just like a freeport. Other than stationary freeports, the Nephilim isn't invulnerable, so it's only fair to give it something to compromise: Zoner Capital Weaponry. Lore-wise, that is what the ships are. Gameplay wise, the issue is simply with the idiots that want the biggest freely available ship ingame. With very, very few people that have a Nephilim and yet know how to use them appropiately.

The name of a ship does not mean it will be rp'd as such infact alot of what is inRP cannot actually be carried out ingame like rping a colony ship. There is not enough functionality to make that possible unless you pretend.

At the end of the day it is still a battleship. So either embrace the tech you have for the purpose of what it can do ingame or redesign it (ariochs auggestion) or make it SRP so that only serious roleplayers can use it.

Leviathans are SRP, why is a colony ship any less important. Its a deep space colony right. The resources to create one would be immense so they should be a rare sight i think

Yeah, and flying a Bretonia Battleship doesn't mean you have to act as Bretonia ordered it. By that logic, you'd limit your own FR5'd ship and many, many, many other ships. However, currently things are pretty well regulated already. If ORIZON or Arcadia decides to wage war against someone, it will have to deal with the consequences. The few Nephilims that are out there aren't that much of a problem. On the contrary, as long as they are acting within the ID, let them play their game, even when it's stupid. I'd rather have a giant flying bullseye flying through nomad space and challenging us to log rather than have nobody daring to go to Iota. Because there is nobody daring to do it, at least not with capitals. It's only indies. Yeah, we all know it's shitty to have lolwuts flying around in Nephs. And now? The amount of warships in Liberty is a joke as well. But!

If we now start and regulate every capital ship like SCRA and K'hara, with what leaves us that? K'hara is literally dying right now, and SCRA didn't even get a third player for the recent event if Vasko hadn't ask for in the shoutbox. Dying factions with great RP potential. Who exactly do you want to shoot in a Zoner drama when there are no Nephilims and Aquilons? Right, there is nothing.

I was pretty much also in the opinion to regulate it to only let TAZ, IRG and SRPs have access to them. It's just the same thing as taking them away from the game completely. Best example is the Persephone. How many times was that ship logged in the last months? Right, you get the idea. Indie capitals are just as important as they are annoying. But just like the ships of every other faction, they get regulated via FR5s and sanctions. It's a working concept.

So, yeah, don't touch the capitals. They are important for activity and gameplay, as some people just don't want to fly in stupid shieldrunning, basehugging, jittering, piling snubs.




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Zoner ID line addition - by Arioch - 01-09-2017, 05:05 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by jide - 01-09-2017, 05:08 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Vendetta - 01-09-2017, 05:08 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Petitioner - 01-09-2017, 05:25 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by sindroms - 01-09-2017, 05:32 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Jack_Henderson - 01-09-2017, 07:22 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by sindroms - 01-09-2017, 07:47 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Thyrzul - 01-09-2017, 08:04 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by sindroms - 01-09-2017, 08:27 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Felipe - 01-09-2017, 09:02 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Backo - 01-09-2017, 10:06 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Petitioner - 01-09-2017, 05:54 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Sombs - 01-09-2017, 06:06 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Divine - 01-09-2017, 06:13 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Foxglove - 01-09-2017, 06:22 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Petitioner - 01-09-2017, 07:24 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Laura C. - 01-10-2017, 12:14 AM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Omi - 01-09-2017, 06:15 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Sombs - 01-09-2017, 06:22 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Sombs - 01-09-2017, 07:34 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by sindroms - 01-09-2017, 07:35 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Backo - 01-09-2017, 07:45 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Black Widow - 01-09-2017, 07:45 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Arioch - 01-09-2017, 07:53 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Sombs - 01-09-2017, 07:57 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Fish - 01-09-2017, 08:19 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Black Widow - 01-09-2017, 08:20 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by Sombs - 01-09-2017, 09:13 PM
RE: Zoner ID line addition - by OllO - 01-09-2017, 09:27 PM

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