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Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. (Feedback Time)
Offline Jack_Henderson
01-16-2017, 03:23 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-16-2017, 03:59 PM by Jack_Henderson.)
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(01-16-2017, 01:50 PM)sindroms Wrote: Trial period is over.
We welcome feedback on the overall change of gameplay in the region during this time.


EDIT: Players wishing for the Wild West approach should be getting a nice gift in the upcoming weeks.

It is a bad idea because of situations like these:



> RM sees a Hessian dock at FP1. As the RM has ZoI in the whole of O3, he can force rp consequences, which he could not do before.

> An RM indie sees an IMG indie transporting Blood Diamonds in O3. In Bretonia, this is legal. In Rheinland illegal. The RM indie could report it to Rheinland, and there would be rp repercussions possible for an interaction that took place outside of the law's reach.

> LN player in Leeds sees a Junker hauling Cardamine. He reports it to Liberty and Liberty fines and FR5s the Junker for breaking Liberty laws, even though the action took place deep in Bretonia.



All the questions that were discussed in this thread "Clarification needed: foreign navies with enhanced ZOI enforcing rp consequences" are still waiting for a clarifying statement. This thread also opens much wider problems, e.g. when LN IDs can FR5 Junkers for something they see e.g. in New London - which makes things totally ridiculous.

I am convinced, that the Admins did not think about the finer consequences of allowing Navies more freedom in foreign space via the ZoI change.



Offered Solution:

The RFP leader, who agrees there is a problem, offered this solution here:

Quote:RM ID: "Can enforce Bretonian laws and assist Bretonian lawfuls in Omega-3"
Quote:BAF ID: "Can enforce Rheinland laws and assist Rheinland lawfuls in Omega-7"
source: http://discoverygc.com/forums/showthread...pid1851219 Post #11

Going by the same thought, LN ID should not have ZoI in Bretonia, but should also get this line:
Quote:LN ID: "Can enforce Bretonian laws and assist Bretonian lawfuls in [systems]"

I can only repeat myself: Do not make the wish to assist cross border possible via ZoI. This opens a can of worms. The "+1 line" approach clarifies it a lot better and makes the wording a lot clearer against abuse.
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Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. (Feedback Time) - by sindroms - 12-21-2016, 01:35 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Jack_Henderson - 12-21-2016, 01:39 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by sindroms - 12-21-2016, 01:40 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Fish - 12-21-2016, 02:05 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Thunderer - 12-21-2016, 02:27 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by dj ole - 12-21-2016, 03:07 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-21-2016, 03:08 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Jack_Henderson - 12-21-2016, 03:23 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by The.Wizard - 12-21-2016, 03:42 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by WesternPeregrine - 12-21-2016, 04:00 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Felipe - 12-21-2016, 04:07 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Felipe - 12-21-2016, 03:30 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-21-2016, 03:36 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Felipe - 12-21-2016, 03:49 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-21-2016, 03:54 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Laura C. - 12-21-2016, 04:16 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Gagadug. - 12-21-2016, 03:51 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Jack_Henderson - 12-21-2016, 03:57 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-21-2016, 03:57 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Laura C. - 12-21-2016, 04:04 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Backo - 12-21-2016, 04:35 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Wesker - 12-21-2016, 05:17 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Internity - 12-21-2016, 04:37 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Shinju - 12-21-2016, 05:09 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Jack_Henderson - 12-21-2016, 05:21 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Wesker - 12-21-2016, 05:29 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Laura C. - 12-21-2016, 05:54 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-21-2016, 06:03 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Laura C. - 12-21-2016, 06:13 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-21-2016, 06:20 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Laura C. - 12-21-2016, 06:45 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by WesternPeregrine - 12-21-2016, 05:50 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Jack_Henderson - 12-21-2016, 05:59 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Jack_Henderson - 12-21-2016, 06:31 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Laura C. - 12-21-2016, 07:07 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Petitioner - 12-21-2016, 07:14 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-21-2016, 07:23 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by WesternPeregrine - 12-21-2016, 07:33 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Laura C. - 12-21-2016, 07:40 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-21-2016, 08:50 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Thyrzul - 12-21-2016, 09:50 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-21-2016, 10:22 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Reid - 12-21-2016, 07:33 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by oZoneRanger(III) - 12-21-2016, 09:30 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Mannock - 12-21-2016, 10:40 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Zelot - 12-22-2016, 12:37 AM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Friday - 12-21-2016, 11:18 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Croft - 12-22-2016, 12:51 AM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Jack_Henderson - 12-22-2016, 01:18 AM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Laura C. - 12-22-2016, 01:44 AM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Shush Muppet - 12-22-2016, 03:25 AM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Croft - 12-22-2016, 02:04 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Petitioner - 12-22-2016, 05:35 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Laura C. - 12-22-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by xiphos - 12-22-2016, 10:49 AM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by FallenKnight - 12-22-2016, 11:11 AM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Shush Muppet - 12-22-2016, 06:19 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Engel - 12-22-2016, 06:21 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Blodwyn O'Driscoll - 12-22-2016, 07:04 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by FallenKnight - 12-22-2016, 07:43 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Blodwyn O'Driscoll - 12-22-2016, 08:15 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Mannock - 12-22-2016, 08:05 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Thunderer - 12-22-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by FallenKnight - 12-22-2016, 08:34 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Blodwyn O'Driscoll - 12-22-2016, 09:06 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by FallenKnight - 12-22-2016, 09:31 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Blodwyn O'Driscoll - 12-22-2016, 09:51 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Tree72 - 12-22-2016, 09:52 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Hubjump - 12-22-2016, 10:09 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by RmJ - 12-23-2016, 06:52 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by sindroms - 01-16-2017, 01:50 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Jack_Henderson - 01-16-2017, 03:23 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. - by Foxglove - 01-16-2017, 03:50 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. (Feedback Time) - by Gagadug. - 01-16-2017, 02:13 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. (Feedback Time) - by Alley - 01-16-2017, 03:40 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. (Feedback Time) - by Jack_Henderson - 01-16-2017, 03:58 PM
RE: Admin Notice: ZOI changes for RM, BDM, BAF and BIS. (Feedback Time) - by Jack_Henderson - 01-16-2017, 04:00 PM

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