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Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID?

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Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID?
Offline Jinx
05-22-2008, 09:50 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-22-2008, 09:51 PM by Jinx.)
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well, in a situation like that - there are two things that contradict each other. - on the one hand, akumabito, you are perfectly right to say that it "can" mean civil war. on the other hand - well, i get to that later...

when we assume that having an outcast ID - along with an outcast tag - and an outcast ship / equipment makes you .... an outcast. - then, by the rules, you have EVERY right to fly ANY outcast ship ( except the ones sold on guard stations owned by guard factions - however... this is a grey area, which could, if taken very seriously - be brought before igiss to decide - cause, there "should" basicly not be any player locking out equipment/ships from other players per se )

now, when you are indeed flying a ship that was purchased in a regular outcast system ( even adjacent systems might be considered direct ZoI of a guard, but they are not under direct control by the guard faction - indeed they are public to the last pixel ) and you are flying outcast colours, - being attacked by a fellow outcast could be understood as a breach of the server rules. ( or in the harshest case even harrassment )

now, we don t play on a server that is called "Discovery 24/7 rules" but we play on a server that is called "Discovery 27/7 RP" - and so, there is now the question, ... what is more important, - the roleplay - or the server rules. it is actually balanced. sometimes its the rules that must dominate a decission, sometimes its the roleplay that overwrite the rules.

what it is in that case, i wouldn t know - thats the business of those that are affected by it. but as it stands - your position is indeed backed up by the server rules, - however, the official factions position is backed up by their roleplay. - both sides are logical and plausible. - by choosing to be an outcast, even independent, you try to fit into the community of outcasts as whatever your role suggests.
if your role suggests to be a devoted outcast captain that worked his way up to command a destroyer for example, i don t think there is a problem flying one. - as that would be a solid, if not boring, but still plausible story - but of course that means, you are an outcast through and through. ( in that case - merits can be earned ingame by actually playing, but can aswell be earned by writing them down as a character history, whatever you like more )

so, i believe any outcast that roleplays as a believable outcast with a solid background - should/would not be rejected to fly the common outcast ships, not even a battleship. - now the dreadnaught is an exception as it is sold in a restricted system. - as i said before, there are hardly any rules that say that you can or cannot do about ships being sold there. - i think the outcasts are very unique there. - every other faction sells all their ships in public systems. - RP wise, such a ship could really be "awarded" - and even if i am not a supporter of players ruling over other players i believe that it can be done here ( since there is infact a ship of the same class that is public and cause i believe that the factions do handle it fair - allthough i wouldn t know - its just guesswork )

So that makes the outcast dreadnaught indeed "limited" ( and only time can tell if its an abuse of power or if its a good and healthy measure )

about the civil war thingy. - as i said before, there is room for such a thing, - as much as there is room for an outcast to fly a bretonian battleship or a zoner to fly a liberty dreadnaught or a corsair to fly a ..... outcast dreadnaught? ( allright, there are limits ) - but such a thing cannot just be "you attack me, now i can set you kos and have a go" - thats not the way to go.

the warship limitation was brought up in a RP way, and if there should be a civil war, it should be done in RP aswell. there is no reason not to have one, but it must be RPed, not just PvPed.

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Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 07:50 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jinx - 05-22-2008, 07:57 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-22-2008, 08:14 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 08:24 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Heartless - 05-22-2008, 08:30 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-22-2008, 08:32 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Zapp - 05-22-2008, 08:52 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 08:55 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Culebra - 05-22-2008, 09:05 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 09:15 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-22-2008, 09:21 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Culebra - 05-22-2008, 09:22 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Varyag - 05-22-2008, 09:25 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 09:27 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-22-2008, 09:33 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-22-2008, 09:41 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 09:45 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jinx - 05-22-2008, 09:50 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 09:50 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-22-2008, 09:52 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-22-2008, 10:18 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-22-2008, 10:22 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 10:36 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-22-2008, 10:44 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jinx - 05-22-2008, 10:48 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 10:51 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 11:00 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-22-2008, 11:01 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 11:08 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-22-2008, 11:10 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-22-2008, 11:12 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-22-2008, 11:24 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-22-2008, 11:33 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-22-2008, 11:35 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 12:40 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-23-2008, 01:10 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 01:12 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 01:18 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 01:20 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 01:22 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 01:28 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 01:29 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 01:37 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 01:39 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 01:40 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 01:41 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 01:42 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 01:44 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 01:46 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 01:51 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-23-2008, 01:55 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 01:55 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by AdamantineFist - 05-23-2008, 01:57 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 02:00 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 02:04 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 02:05 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 02:07 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 02:14 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 02:15 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 02:18 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 02:21 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 02:24 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Teknikal - 05-23-2008, 02:25 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 02:29 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by AdamantineFist - 05-23-2008, 02:31 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 02:34 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 02:35 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-23-2008, 02:35 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 02:37 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 02:38 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 02:40 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by timmychen - 05-23-2008, 03:00 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 03:06 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 03:23 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 03:46 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 03:51 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by DarthCloakedGuy - 05-23-2008, 05:17 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 05:26 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by DarthCloakedGuy - 05-23-2008, 05:32 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 05:36 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 06:30 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 06:42 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-23-2008, 06:56 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 06:59 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 07:04 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Laowai - 05-23-2008, 07:30 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-23-2008, 07:48 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Laowai - 05-23-2008, 08:32 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-23-2008, 09:10 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-23-2008, 10:15 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-23-2008, 10:51 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-23-2008, 10:54 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 11:20 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-23-2008, 11:26 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 11:28 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 11:28 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-23-2008, 11:32 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 12:18 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-23-2008, 12:31 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-23-2008, 12:41 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 12:41 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-23-2008, 12:48 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 12:50 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 12:50 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-23-2008, 12:53 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 12:58 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-23-2008, 01:11 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-23-2008, 02:09 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Laowai - 05-23-2008, 02:22 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 03:12 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 04:45 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Kuraine - 05-23-2008, 05:57 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 08:09 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 08:12 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 08:18 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 08:18 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 08:25 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 08:29 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 08:37 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Othman - 05-23-2008, 08:45 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Eppy - 05-23-2008, 08:45 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 08:51 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 09:13 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 10:25 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 10:31 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-23-2008, 10:36 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 10:42 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 10:56 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 10:57 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 11:00 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 11:05 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-23-2008, 11:08 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Othman - 05-23-2008, 11:11 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-23-2008, 11:14 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-23-2008, 11:32 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-23-2008, 11:35 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Laowai - 05-24-2008, 12:52 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-24-2008, 02:11 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-24-2008, 03:35 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Dopamino - 05-24-2008, 04:33 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-24-2008, 07:59 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-24-2008, 08:35 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-24-2008, 09:20 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-24-2008, 08:42 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Angelfire - 05-24-2008, 09:49 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-24-2008, 10:08 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-24-2008, 11:04 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-25-2008, 01:37 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-25-2008, 01:49 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-25-2008, 03:39 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by AdamantineFist - 05-25-2008, 03:41 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-25-2008, 03:50 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by AdamantineFist - 05-25-2008, 03:54 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Dopamino - 05-25-2008, 03:57 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-25-2008, 04:00 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-25-2008, 06:30 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-25-2008, 06:33 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Varyag - 05-25-2008, 06:38 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Thexare - 05-25-2008, 06:43 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-25-2008, 07:21 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-25-2008, 07:37 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Robert.Fitzgerald - 05-25-2008, 07:48 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-25-2008, 08:13 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-25-2008, 08:29 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-25-2008, 08:41 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-25-2008, 08:52 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-25-2008, 09:31 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-25-2008, 09:39 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-25-2008, 09:43 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-25-2008, 09:51 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-25-2008, 09:54 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-25-2008, 10:01 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-25-2008, 10:04 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-25-2008, 10:14 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-25-2008, 10:19 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Akumabito - 05-25-2008, 10:23 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-25-2008, 10:27 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-25-2008, 10:32 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Robert.Fitzgerald - 05-25-2008, 10:44 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-25-2008, 11:18 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Zero755 - 05-25-2008, 11:43 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jihadjoe - 05-25-2008, 12:26 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-25-2008, 01:05 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-25-2008, 01:10 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by timmychen - 05-25-2008, 04:49 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by AdamantineFist - 05-25-2008, 04:56 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-25-2008, 06:24 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-26-2008, 03:55 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-26-2008, 04:25 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-26-2008, 05:52 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-26-2008, 06:10 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-26-2008, 08:51 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Robert.Fitzgerald - 05-26-2008, 08:58 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-26-2008, 09:32 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by Jinx - 05-26-2008, 09:58 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by mazdamack - 05-26-2008, 10:50 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by n00bl3t - 05-26-2008, 10:56 AM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by podcof - 05-26-2008, 08:43 PM
Are outcast cap ships now open to any ID? - by sovereign - 05-26-2008, 08:48 PM

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