(04-17-2017, 05:11 PM)Thunderer Wrote: Concerning battleships, razors and snubs. Razors are indeed effective, but cerberuses are better. Indeed I have razored a few snubs with some of the shared BAF| Dunkirks, but I have instakilled many more snubs with my Jormugand. That is because it has 3 cerbs, 2 of them on the very back end, perfect for suddenly reversing towards diving snubs and unleashing the surprise of green death. So if you need to kill snubs, mount cerbs on your backwards firing slots. Also mount them if you wish to kill everything else, in case that their range is increased. Who needs razors/mortars/missiles when you have 3.5K cerbs?
(04-17-2017, 11:52 AM)Chills Wrote: To thunderes statement he feels safest in a valor. I haven't seen you flying the Tonnant for ages, only the other players which the Tonnant is shared with. But I don't really wonder you like the actual cap combat. It favors your beloved Dunkirks.
I do fly the Tonnant a bit less, true. I got bored. There isn't any challenge, just advance forward like Alexander's phalanx and look at your foes writhe in pain and death. Unless I'm fighting one of my students. But it isn't particularly interesting to fight your own students either, since you already know exactly what they will do.
The current status suits Dunkirks, though, yes. More than the previous one at least. I am not terribly fond of being damaged by a huge weapon that doesn't even hit me on my screen. At least that is out of the equation if you can stay far enough. The FG is actually the only thing of the Valor's that has been changed, besides its armour having received a buff.
(04-17-2017, 11:52 AM)Chills Wrote: I was not able to damage the dunkirks (not that I would've been with old cerbs either) and played the bait so that the 2 battlecruiser could pick the dunkirks one by one effortlessly. It was a boring battle and the result was predictable.
Would have been more interesting if the Dunkirks listened to the orders
(04-17-2017, 02:43 PM)Titan* Wrote: 5-6 fighter enough to kill legate in 5-6 min
That is actually close to true. Certainly not in 6 minutes, but they would finish it in about 20 and with no losses. That is because the Legate is large enough for most of its turrets to be placed so far from the centre that the aim calculation error is great enough to cause serious inaccuracy.
I wonder why Cerbs are better against snubs. Because higher refire rate? Actually both are not very effective against snubs, battleships don't have anything that is. Although Razors are better against Gunboats than cerbs. But in this case you can have it even easier and fire 2 timed heavy mortars/trebuchets at the gunboat with even better results, because there is no way a gb has enough hitpoints to actually alive a heavy mortar, very different to a Razor. Also you wont simply kill a snub by reserving and shooting all heavy weapons. Only unexperienced people die to this.
The last time a real Valor phalanx stood against a Bretonian fleet was when the old cerbs were there. Since then valor players either cruise up, buttcloak, don't even show up and let their BC's handle eveything, or do something like a 'valor wall' when they have more numbers and don't need to care about a loss or another. Because now they will lose in any other case. Everyone who took an eye on the trend of cap ship battles will notice this. The huge break-in in cap ship battles increases and cannot come alone from "Because ppl leave disco for rl reasons".
Thunderer, you know that I fought the GRN invaders in Leeds and Magellan since I was a newb with a Liberty dread until I've become a skillfull capplayer. The GRN these times had a lot of skilled players in both snubs and caps and I died very often, but still had my fun. The main reason why the GRN won such many fights was their amount of skilled players and not the 'mighty Valor' alone.
I also wonder what you mean by the actual status of the dunkirk. 'Being able to beat up valors at any time and huge range but unfortunately being taken apart by BCs now? Dieng to Valors which only cruise up or buttcloak now because they are useless on high range even with long range setup? By the way, 'I am not terribly fond of being damaged by a huge weapon that doesn't even hit me on my screen.' Sounds like me being hit by your kirks Mortars. But be happy, this problem doesn't only count for the cerbs. This includes all Weapons. If I knew every mortar I see someone shooting at me would fly the way I see it on my screen, I would probably never be hit by them because I simply dodge them all.
To the other part where you're claiming Legate can't kill snubs because guns are too far from center. You should know, it would make no difference. If the snub flies in curves, you wont hit. No matter what, no matter where the guns are placed. WASD straving is completly sufficient unless the cap is firing with guns that have high dispersion. But Solarises don't deal enough damage and you can turn away before your shield is down. Flying in a circle is completely sufficient. Because the old freelancer's aiming system is too broken and can only compute the speed forward, not the additional circling. I've seen this so many times and took it to my advantage in cap combat.
