Admin Notice: Changes to server rule 4.1 and 4.3

[Yber]

Go ingame, gather evidence about issues if there are any and present them to us.

Spazzy told me to collect negative experience with the new rule. Here is another one (in addition to what Mushy described 2 posts above):

A single light bomber now attacks a 7 ship armored convoy (6 traders, 1 gunboat) 20 k from base with "drop all cargo" demand - clearly looking for a fight.

Of course he has zero chance to score a kill in the given situation.

He of course knows that he cannot be killed by the transports (too slow in chase, no CDs) by going evasive after snaccing a few shields to make sure he "rulewise attacked" most of them. Was pretty clear to see.



So... I have the strong suspicion that "killing anybody" this was never the intention. The real threat in such a situation that makes zero sense is: If one of the transports had docked, he would have been pvp-dead for 2 hours. As this was in Tau 23, this would have meant that all transports that dock would be locked out of any cooperative teamplay (e.g. a mining session) for 2 hours because of an attack that can only be described as senseless. Being locked out of T23 for 2 hours means you miss the complete action of a day because we never play longer as a team. It means minus one player who likes roleplay, who likes to be part of a team and to play with others on Disco.

=> The new rule encourages "troll" attacks with ships that transports cannot kill, even if those attackers cannot score a kill themselves. You just have to stay in range after the initial attack to "win" as the attacker. Once the transport has docked, he is out.

=> The new rule gets into the way of cooperative gameplay because it makes groups who have to coordinate (where people have to wait sometimes) easy target for such attacks and therefore harms group play.

=> Groups like that have to reduce the risk of having members shot out, and therefore are forced to log off vulnerable ships or dock on sight when red show. That kills interactions where there used to be interaction in the past.

=> Also it is unrealistic if lawful bases do not provide protection any more. In the past, you could talk to reds when you were close to the friendly base. There was roleplay. If they opened up on you, you docked and nothing happened rulewise. And that's what it should be again. Sitting at a friendly base should offer protection, not mean "you are dead" because someone managed to shoot you before you could dock.

If you want screens and chatlogs of the messy "can't dock!" "Don't dock, or pvp dead!", I can provide that.

if you have 7 ships online is it really that hard to have 1 or 2 be escorts?

lel