Bomber balance

[mjolnir]

Not really, just balancing it more or less out. The point is however that big bombers even with their fat shields and hulls WILL go down faster than small bombers, because they WILL get hit and using this logic they are unfortunately bad against capital ships, which defeats their point.
I would agree, if there weren't any gunboats in the mod. As it stands there is no such thing as "keep distance from gunboats", and Thors are only manageable in O-5 because you can hide behind asteroids. Believe me, fight capships in open space and you will be surprised at how no matter what you do your shield and hull just goes down.

Bombers are supposed to be vulnerable to GBs. Their counter to them is
1. dodge them - doable in Catamaran, Falcata, Havoc...
2. kill them fast - RH bomber, Challenger, Praetorian...

As it stands Thor alone has difficulty killing a GB in open space yes. Up the powerplant and it won't have so big problems. The view from Omegas is a bit twisted by meeting Corsair GBs which have 2 more guns than anything else and most I have seen lately are very anti-fighter set up. Also you have access to Inferno, mount it on some fighters/bomber instead of the Imp. Debilitators you do know. It's kind of more logical RP wise also. Infernos own GBs big time.

I have some flying behind me in a Barghest... killing a BC with only one VHF in support(in open space), getting a rampage in NY against Cruisers/GBs multiple times with fighters on me all the time.

I do believe that over 90% of the bombers are just fine.

The ones that need to be upped are definitely

Thor (powerplant)
Barghest ( shield and even better powerplant)
Waran (questionable since it's supposed to be dated design)

civilian is geting changed completely to have BHG turning, while having 4 guns and beeing even bigger

The ones that need to be "nerfed" would be:

Catamaran - one or both of these: 1. better hitbox for the rear part of the ship, 2. loose the turret
if you have flown the BHG bomber which is basically the same in turning and very close to agility while being bigger you will find that it's in no way uber

Taidan - 1st. it should be GMG/IMG only, not "civilian", Pregeagle and Havoc are civilian, the idea that everyone can use it as well as the infocard and placement is a relic from 4.83 where there were only 2 bombers.
2nd it should get hitbox that covers the sides much better:
http://discoverygc.com/forums/index.php?s=...st&p=261995


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On the other hand funnily enough Thors are quite average against fighters if they get to joust them and the fighter has damaged dodging, like a corsair one.

Not really... mount a sunslayer, use mini properly or use mine + cd. Specially with the explosives you strip the Thor off guns quite fast, since it is a huge target. I tried from both sides and while it's arguably better than say a Challenger it's nowhere near a Falcata for example.

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