Bomber balance

[Blodo]

Actually downing a GB in catamaran if you don't have Inferno (which it basically shouldn't have), or 5 shieldbuster is quite difficult. I have not beeping able to down a few like that... and they didn't even had missiles. Put two missiles on and it's almost not possible. The main problem is the shield comming up before you can fire supernova again => means you need to shoot it down => you are pretty exposed while doing it.

Agreed. But even without missiles (taking two equal skilled pilots) it would not be possible at all for Thor without any sort of fire support in open space to survive, let alone deal damage.

Then how do you explain the fight with mw in Thor + 2 Odins and 1 LF, against first: 2 Titans, 1 Praetorian, 1 GB... gb and one Titan died then the rest left (because 2 more GBs and a Cruiser came and they felt it was too much), and we killed the 2GBs and the Cruiser.

They targeted your support? Odin's had viable anti GB loadout? You had asteroids to hide behind?

You had pretty much useless anti-gb loadout (2 Imp.Debs + 2 Natters + 2 Missiles and CD). And no I won't be able to take him down with catamaran for the reasons explained above.
Thor is not that bad as you picture it, it needs you to work a lot on dodging... but so does the RH bomber. Only thing it needs is the powerplant. With it even while using bats/bots you will punch trough GB shield/hull before you get low on bots. Oh, btw. it's getting 10% size decrease according to AoM.

I am working on dodging, however even with vertical dodge it cannot evade fire well enough to at the very least be able to do circles around the capship without being hit while it's energy recharges. That's the very minimum that it should be able to do with a good pilot behind the steering wheel, hiding behind asteroids doesn't count much.

I don't want to make the big bombers uber cause they suck at this moment, I believe the approach should be that bombers should not be good against fighters (which should easily outmanuever a bomber) but they should be able to dodge capital ship fire, because otherwise they are useless no matter how much armour they wear. It's annoying that FL works that way, but nothing we can do about the engine. We can do something about stats though. The Thor being reduced next version is one thing, but I say that other bombers should get a rebalance as well.

Taiidan, while being whored right now, only needs a slight turn rate reduce and a proper hitbox and it would be perfectly balanced IMO. That's my idea of how a bomber should look like cause it can easily dodge capship fire with it's actual vert and horizontal dodge. It's how Thor and Barghest should be able to fly as well.