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Why is PvP so damn difficult?

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Why is PvP so damn difficult?
Offline Foxglove
09-11-2017, 04:07 PM,
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Nomperson Wrote:>Make missiles actually work and be a threat. Having them home in again or actually WORK would be a good start.
>Make guns be able to hit a lot easier. Increasing speed or something. Lets not have the flashpoints be the only gun that can hit something for noobs, ok? BTW the animation on flashies were better before adding the piss-blob animation.
>Get mines to have a larger explosion effect maybe? Is that hard to ask for?
>For the love of god, man... what did CDs and CMs do to you that you need to nerf them. For crying out loud.
>Make that brrt gun actually easier to hit something.
>Bring Torpedoes back and stop the hate for them.
>Be able to mount more than one missile.
>Make the MR easier to hit and with better arcs if you REALLLLLY need to have a more gun-based pvp system.
>Take a look at snubs seperatly and their effectiveness. Stop taking time to change things that are already good and fix things that are useless. The Wasapu/Jackdaw? ship... you killed it. The crow/___ ship.... you killed it. The Spatial... you killed it. The OSC SHF... you killed it.

I can find myself agreeing with some of this. It is false that missiles currently are not a threat — the Sidewinder is extremely dangerous to fight against. However, I do agree that there should be more of a choice when it comes to weapons. Before the Auxiliary slot, the player had a choice: Do I sacrifice a gun to have a missile? Do I want a CD launcher or a torpedo launcher? All of this consideration for loadout has been utterly eliminated with the addition of the Auxiliary slots. Not only are those slots for VHFs only, thereby devaluing HFs, they also eliminate the choice I mentioned above. Do I want a torpedo-like missile or a CD? Who cares! I can have Sidewinders and CDs.

Ships like the Outcast HF, the Carabela, have been specifically balanced with torpedoes in mind. It has a CD/Torp slot and a CD slot. Currently, it can mount two CD launchers on that. Thank you, that is what I always wanted. Absolutely useless if you can just fly a Sabre and shoot Sidewinders at people, have more hull, more guns and no pathological desire to self-nuke because PVP has become so nauseatingly trite.

All changes to snub PVP in the last year were terrible. The pinnacle of it, though, was the addition of the Auxiliary slot. Instead of increasing player choice, it drastically reduced the viable options. HFs have virtually disappeared, except Kusari snubs. Torpedoes, missiles have been removed and replaced with mediocre substitutes while they have been completely fine before. And even if that were not an issue, say by extending Aux slots to all snub classes and adding more Aux slot weapons, you would still face the issue of not needing to decide what loadout you want. You can still have a torpedo-like missile and a CD on everything. You cannot make any mistake with the Aux slots. It is just "an extra gun". It is a fundamentally flawed concept and it needs to absolutely go.
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Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 03:51 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Foxglove - 09-11-2017, 04:07 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by SnakThree - 09-11-2017, 04:08 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Titan* - 09-11-2017, 04:13 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Foxglove - 09-11-2017, 04:23 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Titan* - 09-11-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by sasapinjic - 09-11-2017, 04:40 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Foxglove - 09-11-2017, 04:42 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 05:01 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Corile - 09-11-2017, 05:23 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Foxglove - 09-11-2017, 05:24 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Shiki - 09-11-2017, 07:07 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by cherokee - 09-11-2017, 05:28 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Zyliath - 09-11-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by gafwmn - 09-11-2017, 05:35 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Omicron - 09-11-2017, 05:41 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Syf - 09-11-2017, 05:51 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Yber - 09-11-2017, 06:18 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 06:38 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-11-2017, 06:49 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 06:56 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-11-2017, 07:18 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 07:31 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Yber - 09-11-2017, 07:25 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 07:33 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Yber - 09-11-2017, 07:38 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 08:02 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 08:21 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Yber - 09-11-2017, 08:33 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Alex Navajero - 09-11-2017, 06:28 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Kauket - 09-11-2017, 06:49 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karst - 09-11-2017, 06:53 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Backo - 09-11-2017, 07:18 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-11-2017, 07:20 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Corile - 09-11-2017, 07:23 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-11-2017, 07:23 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-11-2017, 07:34 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-11-2017, 07:45 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-11-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Yber - 09-11-2017, 07:48 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-11-2017, 08:01 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-11-2017, 08:04 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Kauket - 09-11-2017, 08:05 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by SMI-Great.Fox - 09-11-2017, 08:36 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 08:39 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Kauket - 09-11-2017, 08:47 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 09:11 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Kauket - 09-11-2017, 09:14 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 09:17 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Omi - 09-11-2017, 09:19 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Syf - 09-11-2017, 08:51 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-11-2017, 09:06 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by SnakThree - 09-11-2017, 08:56 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by sasapinjic - 09-11-2017, 08:59 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Sombs - 09-11-2017, 09:01 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-11-2017, 09:14 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-11-2017, 09:31 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Yber - 09-11-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-11-2017, 09:41 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Freeroamer - 09-11-2017, 09:36 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Omi - 09-11-2017, 09:38 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Corile - 09-11-2017, 09:49 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by pillow - 09-11-2017, 11:25 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-12-2017, 01:55 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Thunderer - 09-11-2017, 11:50 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Antonio - 09-12-2017, 01:14 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Sombs - 09-12-2017, 01:34 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-12-2017, 02:00 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 02:05 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-12-2017, 02:08 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 02:11 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-12-2017, 02:13 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 02:15 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-12-2017, 02:20 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 02:23 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Komitoza - 09-12-2017, 02:10 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 02:14 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Komitoza - 09-12-2017, 02:18 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Yber - 09-12-2017, 08:48 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 09:49 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Yber - 09-12-2017, 10:22 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 10:41 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Yber - 09-12-2017, 11:18 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 02:55 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Antonio - 09-12-2017, 10:19 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-12-2017, 11:43 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by ronillon - 09-12-2017, 12:55 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Kauket - 09-12-2017, 04:17 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by SnakThree - 09-12-2017, 04:18 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 04:30 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Kauket - 09-12-2017, 04:40 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 04:48 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Kauket - 09-12-2017, 04:55 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-12-2017, 05:01 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 02:21 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Komitoza - 09-12-2017, 02:24 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 02:26 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-12-2017, 03:48 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karst - 09-12-2017, 07:40 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jayce - 09-12-2017, 04:11 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Reeves - 09-12-2017, 05:21 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by SnakThree - 09-12-2017, 05:36 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Durandal - 09-12-2017, 06:22 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Misfit - 09-12-2017, 06:29 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by sasapinjic - 09-12-2017, 07:12 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Christensen - 09-12-2017, 08:10 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by R.I.P. - 09-12-2017, 08:41 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Datamind - 09-12-2017, 08:58 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Mr.Mike. - 09-12-2017, 09:56 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Datamind - 09-12-2017, 10:13 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Durandal - 09-12-2017, 10:22 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Datamind - 09-12-2017, 10:33 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by SnakThree - 09-12-2017, 11:06 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Zyliath - 09-12-2017, 11:15 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Thunderer - 09-12-2017, 11:20 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by R.I.P. - 09-12-2017, 12:13 PM
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RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Shiki - 09-12-2017, 05:38 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-12-2017, 06:37 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Shiki - 09-12-2017, 07:37 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-12-2017, 07:52 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Goliath - 09-12-2017, 08:02 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Backo - 09-12-2017, 08:03 PM
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RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Thunderer - 09-12-2017, 08:44 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by -Rax- - 09-12-2017, 09:37 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Achilies - 09-20-2017, 08:28 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Enkidu - 09-20-2017, 09:21 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by DannyDelicious - 09-20-2017, 08:36 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Achilies - 09-20-2017, 09:40 PM
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RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Shelco - 09-20-2017, 09:50 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by SnakThree - 09-21-2017, 05:23 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Achilies - 09-20-2017, 09:57 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by sasapinjic - 09-20-2017, 10:13 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-20-2017, 10:24 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Achilies - 09-20-2017, 10:44 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Durandal - 09-20-2017, 10:51 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Giorgio - 09-20-2017, 11:43 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Durandal - 09-20-2017, 11:44 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Giorgio - 09-21-2017, 12:21 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Durandal - 09-21-2017, 12:23 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Dragan - 09-20-2017, 10:46 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Achilies - 09-20-2017, 10:58 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-20-2017, 11:03 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Achilies - 09-21-2017, 01:10 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jayce - 09-21-2017, 04:36 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by sasapinjic - 09-21-2017, 10:49 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Reddy - 09-21-2017, 05:36 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Shiki - 09-21-2017, 05:49 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Durandal - 09-21-2017, 05:55 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Karlotta - 09-21-2017, 01:22 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Achilies - 09-21-2017, 06:08 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Corile - 09-21-2017, 11:02 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Antonio - 09-21-2017, 11:20 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by sasapinjic - 09-21-2017, 11:24 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by SnakThree - 09-21-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Thunderer - 09-21-2017, 11:29 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Antonio - 09-21-2017, 11:38 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by sasapinjic - 09-21-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by SnakThree - 09-21-2017, 11:55 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by sasapinjic - 09-21-2017, 12:01 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Antonio - 09-21-2017, 11:59 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Epo - 09-21-2017, 12:55 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Dragan - 09-21-2017, 01:13 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Durandal - 09-21-2017, 02:06 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-21-2017, 02:29 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Durandal - 09-21-2017, 02:42 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-21-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-21-2017, 03:57 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-21-2017, 04:06 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-21-2017, 04:19 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Traxit - 09-21-2017, 04:18 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Wesker - 09-21-2017, 04:21 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by nOmnomnOm - 09-21-2017, 04:26 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-21-2017, 05:01 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Jack_Henderson - 09-21-2017, 10:40 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Achilies - 09-22-2017, 12:34 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Freeroamer - 09-22-2017, 12:34 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Markam - 10-08-2017, 04:43 AM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Sabru - 10-29-2017, 12:23 PM
RE: Why is PvP so damn difficult? - by Durandal - 10-29-2017, 12:29 PM

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