Bomber balance

[mjolnir]

The only other large bomber that is not used/usefull is Barghest, and size of that thing calls for extra measures (shield + powerplant, then it would be fun and different). Waran well I don't really know, too ugly for me to dare to test it:)



And no hessian ships don't need to be worse:
1. Loki is already superior to just about any LF around and especially to the vanilla Phantom
2. Odin while being big target (though it has Wrath hitbox) and have not so good dodging, turns really fast and is non-vanilla (yes 99% of my deaths in the Wrath are to mines, just like yesterday?). So as it is now I would consider it balanced towards Titan, though slightly worse than Wrath.
3. Thor is non vanilla as all bombers so it should be balanced especially to the bombers it meets, it is a bigger target than both RH and Corsair one, while having smaller powerplant, but it has faster turning than both and extra turret (RH has it also). The thing that is unfair for me is that it says "based on the RH bomber technology" which kind of implies that it should have same powerplant to me.

So:
Loki - one of the best
Odin - average
Thor - under average, should be upped a bit.

RH cruiser - very good

This way you could anylyze just about any faction:
(so I'll do it cause I think it's fun;))
Outcasts
Scimitair - average
Sabre - very good
Falcata - average to under average (but inferno makes it good)
Dessie - one of the best
Dread + BS - no idea
Corsairs -
Arwing - very good, Decurion - useless
Titan - a bit under average (or just different)
Praetorian - average (4 Coladas make it good)
GB - one of the best (against caps anyway),
Cruiser - average?, Dread -?, Osiris - very good
BHG
Sea serpent-?,
Manta - good
Bomber - above average
GS- uber, Orca - under average
Dessie - under average, BC - good, BS - very good
Liberty
Liberator - very good to uber
Raven Claw - average to good, Avenger - average, Guardian - good
Havoc -average
GB - very good
Cruiser - under average, BC - good, Dread - very good?
Bretonia
Hussar-very good
Templar - average
Challenger - good,
GB - under average
Dessie - under average, BS - very good
Kusari
Wyrm-very good
Chimaera - good
Bomber - very good
GB - under average (4 guns + very explosive sensitive)
Dessie - very good
BS - under average to useless (due to the weak spot)
Rheinland
Phantom - average
Wrath - very good
RH bomber - very good
GB - average to under average
Cruiser - good
BS - very good
Rogues
Hyena- useless
Werewolf- very bad, Greyhound - average
Barghest - very bad (but good for pirating)
Rogue GB - one of the best
Lane Hackers
Slipstream - very good (uber with current hitbox)
Sabre - very good, Falcata - average to under average (without inferno)
LH GS - under average, Spyglass - under average (crazy difficult to fly and CD sensitive)
Blood Dragons
Blood Dragon - very good
Bomber - very good
GB - average
Cruiser - average
BS - no idea


EDIT:

Please continue now to discuss this until we all starve to death, because no one here seems to come to an agreement... Compromise, make both sides happy.

Yes why not?:P

It's Igiss that makes the compromise in the end.

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Igiss says: Martin, you give them a finger, they bite off your arm.