Dunc, since you somehow managed to bypass Vasko's point, allow me to make it clearer:
(10-30-2017, 08:10 PM)Backo Wrote: Get in line with everyone else who complains they're not as good in pvp as they wish they could be. Your faction isn't any more special than the rest. You don't see the Gaians threatening to rage quit because they lack a proper ship for pvp. You don't see Junkers making threads that their fighters aren't suitable either. Neither have I seen BAF playerbase complain about the Templar. Where is the 15K core IMG VHF? Henderson literally takes all the newbies and tries to guide them into becoming better players, but he's not having a 15K powercore 8 gun Lhotse. Why? Maybe he should disband IMG. GMG is at war with Rheinland and they don't even have a capital ship to match their enemy. Do you see them throwing a childish fit?
You or your faction not having the best players is NOT so unique in our community that it deserves special treatment that nobody else gets.
Notably the last sentence. Anyone can make an Unioner indie and buy an Arbeiter, we're not talking about the Marduk. UN| being bad at pvp is one of the worst excuses to keep justifying an overpowered ship I've ever heard. a) Nothing stops anyone including aces from using the Arbeiter in any state, b) The "faction being good or bad at pvp" changes so often because members come and go all the time, especially if you purge half the faction because of inactivity which you did recently. Not to mention that a faction as unstable as UN| could be gone in a few months.
Creating so much unwarranted drama for no valid reason is laughable. If it was warranted then many other factions with worse pvp ships should cry every day 10 times harder than you, seeing as Arbeiter is still a good ship overall. Grow up already.
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