[CSW] recruitment

[Akumabito]

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']
Junkers have gained nuetrality with almost every faction in existence, and we have exclusive control over the black market trade in every part of sirius with the exception of kusari space.[/quote]

Which has no bearing on this issue.

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']
Yes, status. No criminal group we work with will dare pirate or attack us [/quote]

Not an issue with this faction either, and not true, but since this has no bearing on the issue at hand it's pointless to address it.

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']
The second we openly attack any lawful ship, we lose the ability to work in their space. [/quote]

Also not true, any Junker who ends up in a firefight with a lawful would be a criminal and probably be KOS by that jurisdiction, but that wouldn't affect all Junkers anymore than if if one Frenchman shoots a US cop that city would arrest or kill every Frenchman it could. Try to have some realistic perspective, OK?

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']
We dont need your warships to keep things running like they are.[/quote]

Nobody does, even the clans that have warships, but with some smuggling routes going through Nomad space and the wild attacks killing dozens every day in the Yangi cloud, those warships can save a lot of lives and produce a lot of profit. It seems a pretty good idea to have some, just like the outcasts and corsairs and zoners didn't used to have any but do now..

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']
but you cant assume that salvaging derelict starships or scrap fields is just 'point and click, hit the tractor beam, done'.[/quote]

Of course you can, because any ship from a starflier to a outcast dread does it the same way, so either you assume guns and tractor beams are enough, or you assume all ships have arms and claws but some are retractable. Either way works and either way sinks this rather specious point of yours.

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']A warship is not designed for salvaging operations, and it certainly doesnt have the cargo space to make it an efficient smuggling machine.[/quote]

All salvage needs is a tractor beam and a gun, and people make smuggling runs with much smaller cargo bays than most cap ships have, which is around 400 and up.

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']
This is where you're most wrong. Junkers OPERATE individually, but we treat one another as family. We back each other up when trouble arises [/quote]

Some do, some don't. You probably haven't noticed, but you can't accurately paint any large group with a single paintbrush.

The Junkers are individuals, and some may have one idea about things and some may have another.

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']
The thing that 'saves us' isnt our nuetrality, you're right, it's our discretion. Any illegal activities we undertake are kept very much hidden from lawful eyes, and any time the lawfuls get nosy we hand up a few deadbeat rogues or other criminals to appease them. The law doesnt care who's getting put in jail, as long as -someone- is, it gets them the publicity they need for funding.[/quote]

Your kidding, right? You actually think the lawfuls think Junkers don't break laws? You thing the Liberty factions haven't seen Junker bases receiving loads of carti and selling slaves?

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']
You will not have the support of any other junker here if you continue pushing this faction into existence under our name, and you can expect that every one of us will attack your ships on sight if they attempt to ruin our nuetrality.[/quote]

Kinda flys in the face of "treating each other as family":)

You are free to throw RP out the window and be a PvP whore if you want, but don't expect that to stop me from my RP no matter how many childish threats you make.:)

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']Basically, dont do it, if you want to run a bunch of rogue ships (which you cant, because the rest of the server wont agree to it) you need to pick a different faction tag and ID. [/quote]

Basically, if you don't like the faction, don't join.:)

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']Your story behind this faction does not in any way reflect the junkers other than 'we repair your ships' - we do that for everyone that pays.[/quote]

You seem to have a very limited view of the Junkers that in no way reflects what they are. Pity that.

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']The reasons have been quite obviously stated in this thread already - you're only doing this so you can pvp whore with capships from every faction, and the only reason you dont want to use a merc ID is because it restricts you to gunboats. I'm sorry, but if that's your aim you need to find yourself another server to play on, discovery wont have that kind of behavior.[/quote]

It's pretty sad that your psychic powers have left you, and your attempts to read my mind have failed so miserably.:)Hey, should I try with you... Your doing this because you have a small.... Imagination:)

[quote name='Tenacity' date='Jun 7 2008, 12:57 AM' post='268205']
Oh, and one other thing, we already have a small group of heavy warships protecting junker interests, they're called the harvesters, and their backstory is a hell of a lot better than what you've offered here.
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The harvesters are PvP and Cap ship whores who are attacking fighters with cruisers, unlike my faction who aren't cap ship whores by comparison since we wouldn't be using our cap ships with the express purpose of killing factions we should be neutral with.

Maybe that's why you think no one can fly a cap without being a whore of some sort, because the harvesters are the example that you think of. Pity.

And they haven't sparked an attack from the lawfuls on the rest of the Junkers in retaliation for their unlawful activity, either, which shows your justification for wanting to PvP whore the CSW isn't real either.

I find your reaction to this attempt at RP kind of sad, your like the villager with the torch, burning the witch who was in reality just a little old lady with a different view that you could neither understand or accept. This kind of intolerance in todays world is quite sad to see..