Ending the Capship Issue(and more)

[n00bl3t]

This isn't real life, mate, this is FL. Things work a little differently here. Geurilla warfare isn't as difficult to combat as it is in real life.

Time will tell.

Let me add my understanding on this issue.

A long time ago, Disco was made.
The Disco Community noticed that NPC's are dumb.
The Disco Community noticed that the Liberty Government is static and doesnt say anything other than what the Overlorda of Microsoft told them to say.
The Disco Community said "This isn't good! without life the Disco will die. The Disco must not die."
The Disco Community said "We must do something! We shall be the government so that Disco does not die."
The Disco Community made offical factions that Roleplay as the governments of each houses, as we all know...the NPC's are dumb.
The Disco Community OFFICAL Player Factions are the Governments of each house. Those Governments are directly responsible for the production of any ship, whether it be Capital ship or a Starflier Light fighter.

You cannot be an INDY CAP ship owner without RP and be part of the COMMUNITY. That is the failing in your thinking Akum. You are trying to pull down years of history of RP by allowing INDIES to do what ever they want to do. Disco is NOT INDY driven. It is Community Driven with the leadership of Igiss. This community has said that capships are to be restricted, by ROLEPLAY, but many INDIES stick their nose up at having to write some RP story and working WITH the community. The INDIES want to do whatever they want to do...if they REALLY want to fly a Cap ship they should take their INDEPENDANT thinking and go to the PVP server.

THAT is the problem of the CAP SHIP issue, not the restrictions on obtaining and using one.

Yes. You have hit the nail on the head. Any indy that wants a capital ship is simply seeking to pwn. Even though that capships can be killed by two bombers and everyone knows this, these stupid indies still want to fly the big ship that they can get pwned in. Makes perfect sense, the adherence to fly a ship that one gets pwned in is the essential attitude that is required in a PVP server.

All of you that so call fight for all the indie cap ships out there.

When was the last time you jumped into a VHF and flew around gamma/delta/kappa?

Try stepping down from your "oh so powerful" ship and fly a VHF like the rest of us, fly around for a bout a week, and just count the number of BSs, BCs, Dessies, Cruisers, Dreadnaughts you stumble upon...
Then you will know the problem first hand.
Try moving anywhere into your enemy's ZoI just to find 5 cap ships orbiting, oorp chating and just looking for something to kill.

Why trust any of us, who fly there almost everyday for the past year or more, here, i will personaly finance your ship if needs be, so you will finaly see the problem first hand and witness what we all are talking about.
If there wasn't a problem, than the issue wouldn't of rose up. but as it happens in system after system, house after house, faction after faction, that so many people of this comunity see the problem.
but yet, you refuse to acknowledge it, to affraid to put your own RP on review, to affraid for the chance you will need to improve it or work on it, or god forgive, even fly a smaller ship like the rest of us.. this is unthinkable...
Might I remind you all, this is an RP server - Role Playing server. Not a PvP server.
Here, what matters is the Role Play, not who has the bigger ship or the stronger guns.
It seems a lot of players forget that.

As for rules, they are written and enforced to guard the community from abuses such as these, they are made by the community, for the community.
And when the community rises up and says that the SPAMMING of Cap ships is ruining the game for them, then it means actions need to be taken to yet again to ensure this community still enjoys the game it so much loves.

I'm an outcast. Will Alpha count?

Okay, lets say I raid the Corsair homeworld. I would not be as foolish to do so in a VHF, as it would force me to use my escape pod and waste the resources spent on constructing my ship as well as a single fighter attacking an opposing homeworld should be killed by a patrol before I even get close, so if I attack in a single fighter I am OORP.

If I was raiding the Corsair homeworld properly, in a capital ship that is, I would have no problem facing other capital ships. Especially since I would expect a homeworld to be guarded exceptionally well. If these capships are OORP I will still fight, maintain my RP and then sanction them later.

Would you be willing to finance my OC bomber? So that I can see things from your view. I already have fighters and such, but a bomber would really make my day.

The anti-faction attitude here is immense... Honestly, do you guys and gals over in that camp really believe all factions are evil, power-mongering and independent-hating admin-buddies?

Anti-faction-taking-power attitude actually. Anti-restriction maybe. A few others that are minor.

That camp? We have no camps. While you sleep we work.

People with power are afraid of one thing; losing their power. They also want one thing; more power. It is highly unlikely that you will understand the motivations and beliefs of the independents in "that camp". I don't like what's happening now, but not as much as I won't like what might happen if I don't oppose what happens now.

Regarding Admin-buddys: Aren't there some factions with Admins in them? It would be very difficult for a person to be in a clan and not be friendly with the clan that they belong to.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.