Ending the Capship Issue(and more)

[killhappyfool]

IT has become painfully obvious that most everyone at this point has LOST Sight of the point of this thread. It is NOT to debate the topic of indies vs Factions, but to create a more efficient Rules page and INFORMING NEWBIES!!!! :angry:

At this point I am stuck between two options. I will either request that this topic be locked or that moderators delete all posts that wander back into this issue after this post. I am sickened by the fact that many groups are demanding such things and not taking a peaceful route to resolution.

At this point I will take the right to make the last word as a non-moderator on this OFF-TOPIC ARGUMENT as this THREAD was started by ME. Indie ships should register, however all Factions should take it upon themselves to resolve the issue in a peaceful manner. THIS MEANS Directing people to the forums, giving SPECIFIC Links to help them. Being in a faction is no excuse to be a dick. PLAYER FRIENDLY doesn't equal Faction whoring. :rtfm:

This wouldn't even be CLOSE to the level of the problem it is now if the information was presented in a neat organized manner not a bunch of thread links (Not Baggin on that work Del. Praise you So much for it. Just needs to be better)..

But NO, Factions bomber whore or cap whore the indies when these indies are more then a little peeved to have spent DAYS working to get a cap ship and suddenly some jerk hole (yes I said it because it should NEVER become so rude as I have seen it in liberty and can only imagine elsewhere.) in a faction that perhaps this player doesn't even know EXISTS decides to tell him to lose the ship or be spam destroyed until he leaves. (Unfortunately, Player ill-knowledge is not on this topic is not their Fault. I STILL don't know all the acronyms for factions and who's player faction is connected to which NPC faction. The forums MUST be fixed to solve this as well as players in factions being more helpful.)

An example would be the [SA] Southern Alliance (Liberty Navy Player faction). When I first joined this server i played nights. the SA almost doesn't exist at that time. If for whatever reason I had decided to trade till I could afford a carrier and license and then some SA told me I couldn't fly it cause they said so. I wouldn't hesitate to tell him to shove off. If they wanted to spam kill me I wouldn't have any qualms about just logging on when they aren't around or outright ignoring them. Now if he ASKED me to register it and provide a back story I wouldn't mind putting my flying on hold until I wrote a nice long one out.

At this point the problems are MORE on the Factions then on the indies. However, KNOWLEDGED Indies have no excuse to not write some RP or register. Because you have been informed.

BTW informing an indie in a manner such as.. "WTF you doing? your not allowed to fly that ship. Its not registered, sell ship, apply for registration before we blow you out of the sky.." or any other insulting aggressive manner is COMPLETELY unacceptable and undermines the pleasant player friendly atmosphere this server is SUPPOSE to give out.

As a Faction you are suppose to set the expectation, not be the example of what is Poor consideration for others.

An example for those who would like to be an Indie Liberty Navy Ship [LNS] I encourage to Rp along the lines as a member of one of the battle Groups in the Northern Fleet. Which is a non-existent group that would represent the Colorado system. Heck an idea that I am going to use for my cap ships is that I am a simple working on it and working up through the ranks of the ship as I go.

Use unique ideas and surprise everyone. If your like me and want to try ships out on the forum make a Fun account and use your ship ONLY in Connecticut.

//END UBER FLAME RANT. Any more posts flaming as such for the last 20 or so pages will not be accepted and I humbly ask the Mods to delete them. I will be making a topic specifically for this little flamefest debate//

Now back to the Topic. Does anyone have an idea or two that can help to make the forums more helpful and clarify. Especially on some of the more... volatile topics.
Thanks.

//sorry if I missed any posts. This took me a while to write//


**Final note I would like to Lavish praise on Both Del and Jinx for the positive assistance you have provided to the thread.**

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