Technocracy of Auxo - Feedback

[Lythrilux]

It's also not your place to go out and start making decisions and having discussions on behalf of our faction, so stop doing that.

That's hypocritical. Auxesia making an under-the-radar request over the tech, without consulting Core or BHG, is what got us to this point.

What's going to (or will hopefully) happen is that the Core guns, turrets and equipment will be duplicated for a separate Auxesia cell in a Patch or so. These will be considred the outdated models they left The Core with. At some point in the future, the ships will undergo the same treatment once Core gets new models for their shipline and Auxesia will 'keep' the current ships minus caps as placeholders until they get their own ship-line. I believe this solution is the best course of action that can be taken without leaving one side upset, or lore/RP in a mess.

Until this happens, I would suggest not selling any equipment (and ships perhaps? Although I can understand more leniency here as this part of the solution ha no clear date) as it is technically not what you actually have, and it will allow for the smoothest transition once the equipment gets added.

Neat, thanks for putting words in my mouth.

It's what I wrote and you followed up with it's something you can do. As I said in brackets "(it's hopefully)", implying it's something that would either happen soon or in the future. You didn't specify anything else otherwise. A slight misunderstanding on my part, if anything.

I said that we can split the tech lines and give Aux their own. I said that we could do that, not that we will. It's more or less been canonized at this point that Auxesia is fully capable of reverse engineering your technology, and while a split at some point is sensible the development team is not obligated to prioritize it for you.

And yet, for the past couple years, you've prioritised Auxesia above everyone else. Don't you see the problem here? Don't you see the factors that have gotten us to this point in time? The Dev team brazenly pandered to one group, not only above, but at the expense of two others. I think this is a cautionary tale for why things like this need to be avoided in future, and why bias is bad, because it will lead to inconsistencies, it will lead to mistakes, and it will lead to people being upset.

Consider this: if what you are requesting is that Aux receives a tech split from the current core tech line that they possess, then that means you acknowledge their possession of the aforementioned technology and their ability to modify it into something of their own design. With that in mind, we can very safely assume that they are capable of replicating it and - christ, no, anything but this - giving it away.

No, I don't really consider that them having our stuff is legitimate, but given how deep-rooted this debacle has become I think we're past the point of subtractive measures and I'd rather look forward. My idea is the best solution, that stops people being upset whilst taking away things from no one. Auxesia shouldn't be able to produce the current line of Core ships and equipment, but rather outdated but wholly unique versions. They should also certainly not really be producing capital guns, and should be sticking with the cap turrets they SRP'd.

You have been hypocritical throughout this entire process, championing yourself as the hero of everything non-vanilla while actively impeding the efforts of factions similar to your own in progression simply because of the people involved and the way things were handled, ignoring espoused principles in favor of what appears to be a personally vendetta, pun not intended, towards both Auxesia and the development team. Your faction sold tech which you believed to belong to the BHG|, which somehow wasn't an issue. Now when Auxesia distributes your technology, which again and again has been deemed legitimate by the staff, you whine. When the retcon happened - and as much as I hated it, it needed to happen for this very reason (imagine the weird boat we'd be in right now if Auxesia was selling BHG tech) - you stomped your feet and cried about that, too.

Maybe I'd be more inclined to show kinship with Disco factions if it wasn't the case that they get far more pandering than we do (the community knows which I mean). I don't honestly feel like Core are in the same boat at all, and have more affinity with the other factions in the game, who are treated equally and are development at similiar paces. So yes, I guess I'm a bit jaded and don't really care about some of the other Disco-added factions as much as I used to anymore.

The BHG line belonged to APM, which is a fact that stretches back both IRL and in-game decades. The staff also specifically weighed in on this matter with a green message, and said both factions shared their FR6 and could sell each other's stuff respectively. When BHG| came along, Impy and I reached a pretty healthy agreement where we just sell each other's stuff where/when it makes sense and shoot people who shouldn't have it. That is not the case at all here.

No offence but I seriously doubt you hated the retcon. If that was the case, you would have approached The Core (or BHG), which you didn't. And before you try to pin it on "because it's you!" I wasn't even leader or around at the time. The retcon did not need to happen, there was already a fairly plausible reason (even though it still wasn't perfect) for Auxesia having the BHG ships: they could be considered an outdated Core line.

And stop trying to make this personal, every time this topic comes up that's what you immediately do. It's not about me, or the specific people in Aux. I have no problem with them, and if anything you are trying to push a divide between us for reasons I cannot understand. Stop that. It's not even just me who is upset about this. People both in and outside the faction do not think it's right. You saw in the discussions in the Omicron Dev Chat that this was the case. If even me and Golly can agree on something, it must be an empirical fact.

Go back to being the paragon of activity in the Omicrons which I promise you is not being impeded by a base in Inverness selling your guns, and stop wasting our time. Pissing off developers and not understanding the word no to the point where we need to come into a feedback thread and yellow text is not the guy you want to be.

The Core isn't just Omicron-activity generating monkeys. We've got roleplay, which we have our concerns about, and that is what we're addressing here. The Developers have just as much duty to protect the integrity of the roleplay environment of the Admin team. Do you seriously not understand that you are making loads of people upset? Yeah I guess maybe I am pissing you off, but you're also pissing off a lot of people too. I wasn't even the person who bumped this feedback thread. I have had several people in the past couple weeks encourage me to take this to the admin team - I strongly feel like we do not need to reach that point, and can keep things grounded.

In summary, Auxesia has the guns sold on their base, the means to produce them were a product of years of roleplay, they can distribute them, they do not own the techcell, and while the situation Kazinsal described is likely to happen at some point, we are not going to expedite it just for you.

I only ask this is prioritised given how much of a problem it is. It's not about expediting it just for me, I could leave the community and the problem is still here. It's about taking this matter seriously and doing what you owe to, what you failed to do, not for me, but for The Core faction two years ago.

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I'll put in my two cents instead of a single coin:

Auxesia RPed enough imo to back-up their creation of technology. If it doesnt make sense then.. sorry. Put another coin.

You can treat our opinion as subjective, note we do represent the NPC faction, but we don't think that RP is concrete enough to justify Auxesia producing infinite amounts of our stuff. Auxesia should only have the items they left with as SRPs (from our point of view), or at most a tech cell with carefully regulated usage (like with what every other faction does when they have a foreign tech cell on their ID). There is no real justification for them being able to produce unlimited quantities of our tech, especially the most recent versions or even basic capital guns, other than a flaky "muh blueprints" reason and a sneaky yellow statement (which even then, doesn't necessarily disagree that they should not have SRPs). But we are past the point, for better or worse, for looking back and trying to make changes to make up for mistakes. We can only look forward now with additive solutions.

They did the RP. If you don't like it, deal with it inRP. The lobby is closed.

If you read the thread you'd know that's what we're trying to do, at most supplementing it with a mechanic that can only be beneficial.

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you blatantly denied Core getting a megalodon because Core dont have the means to produce it and core inrp should have only one battleship yet you support this OORP powergamed techcell ?

This is actually a good point, even if it is a little off topic. I'm past the point of discussion for the Megalodon, but how can you legitimise a bunch of people "defecting" from a faction and suddenly able to produce that faction's tech flying out the wazoo, but not feel like a faction being able to construct a Heavy Battleship is legit?

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