This is Exactly what I mean.

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I don't have the nerve to argue here.

I laugh at something here. It is realy something that is unjust , but Shigeo Kitamura - Hogosha can't expain is this.

If a clan declares an indie hostile and destroy them over and over again , that is correct RP , because the "majoroty" has rights , not the singular player. BUT

What happens when indies of a given faction , deside they have had enough and using the same or RP excuses deside to simply....DESOMATE the clan.

Now "Clans have more people , they will never be able to ..balalala" - Clans aren't always a 5-6 people online job. Most of the time they are just 1-2 players ... BUT here is where the infairness starts.

Clans have leaders. Leaders have to have connections to get aproved , so it's easy for them to make the admins ban/sanction the players who they cannot stop. Because , and trust me on that one , if the indies some clans have desided to chase away , deside to unite and RP wise use the stupid and REALY REALY OLD excuse of something like "omg he is corrupted KILL HIM" , what are you going to do then ?

I know what you mean. It ss like copy/paste from everything else that has been typed. Get a bot to read keywords of another's post and post what's already been posted?:P

Well. I think I should PM you about what has been said here.

Have to have connections to get approved? I'd one hundred percent disagree with that notion, I don't know where people are getting the idea that the official factions are in some joint conspiracy with the admins to hunt down and exterminate all indys, I really don't.

Second point, some of the factions do represent the entirety of that faction.

Liberty Rogues we are the entirety of the Liberty Rogues and I would expect independent rogues to respect that, although we treat them according to thier ship class so a captain of a Destroyer only has to listen to the orders from the myself or my two seconds.

Rheinland military is the entirety of the Rheinland Military and acts accordingly

Kusari naval forces equally so.

Liberty security Force respects indy rights in the main as does the LPI.

Most of the player factions have no issue with indys, someone wants to fly around in a Rogue Gunboat pirating, I'm all for it. Let them have fun. Someone wnats to hang around New York in a Outcast Destroyer killing every fighter that steps into his path, so that I get a hundred PMs and Skype messages from peeved indys and faction members alike I ain't all for that. What people seem to be missing is that despite the fact we don't control you the factions still get flak for poorly RP'd independents, people telling us to reign them in. When we try to we get flak from the independents. A faction leader's life is one filled with endless complications and not a job for the faint hearted, ask any faction leader how much time he gets to play the game. I guarantee you it isn't as much as you think. It's no surprise that some of them lose patience when folks jump on them for even the slightest breach in demeanour. They, like you are only human.

Let's kill this debate between Indies and Factioned folks once and for all. The factions don't hate indies. The indies shouldn't hate factions. So long as everyone RP's or trys to then we should all just get along and enjoy what time we have to play.

You say that the factions do not hate independent players, but then you say the independents should not hate factions. This implies that factions are devoid of all hate and independent players are absolutely brewing hate. Most of the personal attacks, derogatory pictures, and such, I have seen have come from the faction side.

Who hates who? Look at what is here and judge it yourself.

(I sincerely hope that there is no hate.)

This is why people tend to trust factions, official or otherwise. There is a guiding force behind the actions of the group, and if you learn how that force works (by, say, reading the posts of the leader or talking to them on skype or ingame) then you can predict what you trust the group to do. You might not trust them in a positive sense, but they become predictable enough to handle easily- if they are prone to KoS'ing BHG, then if you want to fly your hunter through a system full of them, you might want to fly 14k above the galactic plane. If they are known to not KoS anything, then you fly straight through. Either way, you know what to expect, and can use background information to shape a more interesting RP experience.

Common ground is the source of good chatter- if you and the other guy have nothing in common, then you can only talk at each other, not to each other. If you see some person floating around, you try to develop a sense of what they might be- between their ship, their ID, their tag, and their equipment, what might they be? That's where talk comes from.
I kind of got to rambling there, but I hope I got the idea across. I'm not too happy with Unselie's statement there, but I don't blame her for it. Akumabito is very good at pulling the worst out of people so he can nail them for it. Its a useful skill, if not a nice one. He might make a good minister of propaganda for some dictatorship somewhere. If you're reading this, Akumabito, consider it. Seriously, you're perfect for the job.

Which 101st member will talk with me?

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.