' Wrote:Now, I can't speak for any other factions, but I can tell you that the XA has absolutely no problem with independants whatsoever. We don't consider ourselves to be the entire Xeno movement, so there's a lot of room for independants. We often fly alongside them and have a lot of fun in the process, and we treat them as equals.
As for needing to be in good with the leaders, that is definately not true. I didn't know anybody at all when I filled out my XA application. I flew a couple indie characters before that, but nothing major, and I didn't get on anyones radar, since I was still new to the server. When I was flying indie, I didn't feel stepped on by any factions, either.
Now, what the XA does do is try to lead by example. We always try to stay in character, and we always keep our loadouts in RP. Basically, if you want to know how to properly RP a Xeno, take a look at an XA player. Personally, I think this has worked, as I've noticed an improvement in the quality of indie Xenos since we came on the scene.
Now you see, most of the factions here try to lead by example. From personal experience, I was set by the [GoR] (now the [101st]) when I arrived on this server, and I agree with the statement that leading by example is the way to go.
However, the situation in Omicron Gamma is so bad now that we are left with very little choice. I am sure Eppy and the Outcasts felt the same way about 5 or so destroyers taking their backsides to New York.
If people accuse factions of not trying to lead by example, then that is categorically untrue. Factions of all persuasions lead by example. I try to lead by example too, and encourage those in my faction to spread it.
Coming on to Laowai, your rant is completely understandable, but that decree is actually aimed at the majority. There are less Corsair indies that RP well than all the digits on two hands, whereas there are more bad RPing ones than you can shake a melon at. All we required was a signate saying, essentially "yes, I agree to the terms and conditions". You could even have asked for a reprieve, seeing as you are certainly one of the better ones. I could've altered the register into two seperate lists, the ones with the people who have proven time and again that they deserve their ships, and those who have yet to do as such.
I was actually hoping that you wouldnt see that as yet another attack on the indies, and rather an attack on the indies that have little to no RP. Its a feeble one at that, considering those of your ilk make it so hard for acts such as this to be passed. Considering that the measures we have taken in no way compares to the draconian measures taken by Rheinland that you quote, I fail to see where that point leads. I am willing to talk to any people who have problems with what we do in a civil manner.
The measure was put in place to keep tabs on Corsair capital ships and to restrict their movements. I am well aware that there are exceptions who deserve more privelidges, such as yourself and the scarce few others. The measure was also put in place for, essentially, an ooRP reason. That is to try to curb the use of capital ships. Its evident that raising the price tag simply didn't work, so adding extra red tape is the next step.
Consider that we, the factions, are quickly running out of options to curb the use of large capital ships.
Whether the concentration of power to factions is fair or not is debatable. Since you seem to disregard the fact that the factions are the ones who get the complaints when the indies do something, you should also agree that the factions wish to stop the indies doing the things which cause these complaints. Indies do not have the same rights as the factions simply because they shoulder very little of the responsibility. If you wish to change this, or in fact, if any indie wishes to change this, you cannot simply wish it that way and complain about it. You've got to do something about it. Take some of the responsibility for the actions of your comrades rather than saying "nope, not my problem". If you dont want to do this, then it becomes your problem in the form of measures taken by the factions to stop the actions of the independants.
In a perfect world, I would deal each case independantly and decide with the help of the other members of the respective factions how to restrict a vessel, depending on RP and other factors, such as the reputation of the player. However, this world is far from perfect.
I respect your stance in protecting the independants, but you must realise that you and your RPing capital ships are by far the minority. We make measures for the majority, something that I thought I need not stipulate. However, since you seem quite adamant that your minority is much larger than it actually is, there wont be much room to convince you.
Tell you what, since you are in the corsair senate skype chat, we can discuss this in real time at some point during the day?
After that mini hijack, I still have to say that what Unselie said is completely true. It may be wrong in principle as fairness is not attainable, but since when was anything fair? You have the Labour government in Britain bribing the Democratic Unionist Party to push through a 42 day restraining order on terrorist suspects. You have Robert Mugabe trying any means to stay in power with that aweful moustache he has. You have the so-called "war on terror" in Iraq and probably soon, Iran. You have earthquakes in China and subsequent aftershocks with lakes forming because of rockslides, threatening to flood whats left of some decimated settlements.
Simply put, life isnt fair because we do not live in a fair world physically. If the world was fair, these problems would be shared equally between every individual and so the load reduced. Unfortunately, this isnt the case, because some people like the taste of power.
I am one of them.
Shigeo, its easy to complain about it and your complaints are justified. I do indeed see a problem. However, what I don't see is a solution. Since this is an unfair world, conditions for any action will always be unfair. Freelancer is unfair in that ships, weapons and equipment have different statistics. How can we make things fair in an unfair, albeit cyber, world?
By equalling everything. Titan = Sabre = Blood Dragon = Werewolf. Things like that. But everyone agrees that it should not be the case. So we will live, play and work in an unfair world with unfair conditions. I dont like it as I am on the butt-end of it sometimes, but there is no solution to the human problem.
Even the notion of communism, equality for all, failed in its implementation because the leaders took what power they could, when they could. People aren't good natured for equality. Of course, there are exceptions, but in the same ratio as the good Corsair indies to bad. Or rather, the same ratio to dead pixels to properly working pixels on a sample of a few thousand LCD screens.
As much as I agree with you, which I do, we live in an unfair world and we have to deal with it or not exist.
