[Infopage] Battlegroup Harmony - Information and Feedback

[Wesker]

Every fight I was in since the last time this was discussed has been had away from the junction.

See here's the issue.

Even if the base /is/ away from the junction, it's a recipe for disaster in every way for the offensive side. The reason this is so prominent in particular is because its the liberty playerbase, which musters more caps faster than any other house on this community. There have been billions of LNS logged to fight the Harmony, and in every case I've been to, the Harmony has won with minimal losses.

That's because of the system is literally laid out to be a guard system on steroids.

First let's consider that even in absence of the POB's interfering with combat, the system is an asteroid field - meaning offensive cap fleets moving into the system are going to get bottlenecked and crushed in so many ways. Multiple capitalships have to squeeze through the asteroid feild which in several cases minimizes casualties for the harmony players since they more than commonly fly cruisers and battlecruisers. Making it easy to slowly nibble at the liberty navy players and eventually kill them all. The concept of nova bombers (which would often be solution to battlecruisers) is made irrelevant since the asteroid field negates a good portion of the torpedoes fired at the capital ships. The asteroid field also easily allows fighters to traverse and take down any bombers.

Now you're probably thinking, "well just log the crap necessary to counter what we have". The issue is here that it takes time in every case for the liberty side to readjust its forces, since they have to fly all the way back to Texas and relog. Take this, and compare it to the harmony players that can simply dock at any base within the system and relog, or change on a moments notice in contrast.

Now, mix this all with the very well known fact that the liberty playerbase is also terrible, that's not your fault, but when you consider everything this system has going for it in contrast to practically any other system in the game, it's something that can be fixed at very least.

Using the environment for the most part is fine anyways, but now lets mix the small problem that is the system itself with the contents of the system.

I encourage staying away from the pobs but I won't complain if a ganked ship moves there to escape.

I hate to sound rude here, but words of encouragement do literally nothing when a player is confronted with dying in this game. Everyone, you and me included - will do whatever it takes to avoid getting killed in practically any situation. The issue here is that the base locations mixed the npc freeport's affiliation all contribute to making it way to easy to avoid getting killed. The defense setup in Bering has proved in a real fight that, even a numerically superior force (very large) can easily be disorganized and completely destroyed as a result of the bases defenses even in the absence of any coordination from the Harmony side so long as they stay near the bases.

Regardless of the situation, it's ridiculous to have a saftey net that protects the harmony and UN players well over what should be the "protection limit" in this game. Ganks happen to us all, we do use bases as cover, but they're npc bases often times. I can live with players hugging npc bases, I am not a fan of PoBs providing ridiculous amounts of cover that negates any chance of victory. Especially when the bases is set so that the people hugging it cannot go hostile to the base. You're fighting the Liberty playerbase, they do have a lot more numbers, they are not skilled however, and other factions are confronted with similar issues of constantly facing larger forces on a daily basis.

Yet, all of those factions manage without having something like this setup. What I find sort of ridiculous is that it's taken people complaining for you to consider making a change that could possibly fix a part of the situation. Why did you not consider this before? Letting something like this run with the endorsement of the official faction that is blatantly harmful to gameplay for anyone that isn't wearing a Harmony or Unioner IFF is in itself - very questionable.

If it would be preferred I could note down the coordinates of Bristol's platforms and move all of them into the pob or Freeport. So they can be fanned out should it actually be sieged.

Having the base's platforms moved would rule out the issue of captial ships being completely wiped out, but the cover in that area mixed with the dockable npc base not 2k from the bases just a "no blue safety net" for players wearing your IFF or a UN IFF. Let's also consider for a moment that even if you do in fact run with this, I can guarantee most fights within the system will quickly move from the Freeport to Marshall station. Which, just so happens to have the same issue, only now the base cannot be sieged, and there's even more cover for it.

I strongly advise you undo the 1 way friendly rephack for the bases if you want any sort of pvp related interaction to happen in the system. If you don't, than you're doing the best job ever at really "securing" the system - and I wouldn't consider that a good thing.

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