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Offline Karlotta
06-15-2018, 02:38 PM, (This post was last modified: 06-15-2018, 03:19 PM by Karlotta.)
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(06-15-2018, 11:01 AM)Laz Wrote:
(06-15-2018, 10:46 AM)Karlotta Wrote: useless and confusing tags like "Hs" "Corp" and "fc"
Hs is just like li or rh. Hs is Hispania. Corp I agree is uneeded. fc stands for faction.

Now Wrote:BrArmy BrBIS BrCivilian BrCorpBMM BrCorpBowex BrCorpGateway BrCorpPlanetform BrGaian BrMolly BrPolice BrPrivateer fcAI fcBHG fcCoalition fcCore fcCrayter fcGMG fcIMG fcJunker fcNomad fcOrder fcZonerBw fcZonerCo FreelancerBw FreelancerEw FreelancerGa FreelancerLi FreelancerRh GaBrigand GaCivilian GaCorpEFL GaCorpGMS GaCorpIDF GaCorse GaCouncilBw GaCouncilCo GaGRI GaGRP GaMaquis GaNavyBr GaNavyCo Hardcore HsCorsairBw HsCorsairCo HsOutcastBw HsOutcastCo KuAlliance KuCivilian KuCorpKishiro KuCorpSamura KuDragon KuGC KuHogosha KuKPT KuNavy KuPolice LiCivilian LiCorpAgeira LiCorpDSE LiCorpInterspace LiCorpOSC LiCorpQQ LiCorpSynth LiCorpUniversal LiHacker LiHellfire LiLSF LiNavy LiPolice LiRogue LiXenos Pirate RhBundschuh RhCivilian RhCorpALG RhCorpDaumann RhCorpKruger RhCorpRepublican RhHessian RhLWB RhMilitary RhMND RhPolice RhUnioner

LessTags Wrote:AI BHG BrArmy BrBIS BrCivilian BrBMM BrBowex BrGateway BrPlanetform BrGaian BrMolly BrPolice BrPrivateer Coalition Core Crayter FreelancerBw FreelancerEw FreelancerGa FreelancerLi FreelancerRh GaBrigand GaCivilian GaEFL GaGMS GaIDF GaCorse GaCouncilBw GaCouncilCo GaGRI GaGRP GaMaquis GaNavyBr GaNavyCo GMG Hardcore IMG Junker CorsairBw CorsairCo KuAlliance KuCivilian KuCorpKishiro KuSamura KuDragon KuGC KuHogosha KuKPT KuNavy KuPolice LiCivilian LiAgeira LiDSE LiInterspace LiOSC LiQQ LiSynth LiUniversal LiHacker LiHellfire LiLSF LiNavy LiPolice LiRogue LiXenos Nomad Order OutcastBw OutcastCo Pirate RhBundschuh RhCivilian RhALG RhDaumann RhKruger RhRepublican RhHessian RhLWB RhMilitary RhMND RhPolice RhUnioner ZonerBw ZonerCo


Best Wrote:AI
BHG
Br-Army
Br-BIS
Br-Civilian
Br-BMM
Br-Bowex
Br-Gateway
Br-Planetform
Br-Gaian
Br-Molly
Br-Police
Br-Privateer
Coalition
Core
Crayter
FreelancerBw
FreelancerEw
FreelancerGa
FreelancerLi
FreelancerRh
Ga-Brigand
Ga-Civilian
Ga-EFL
Ga-GMS
Ga-IDF
Ga-Corse
Ga-CouncilBw
Ga-CouncilCo
Ga-GRI
Ga-GRP
Ga-Maquis
Ga-NavyBr
Ga-NavyCo
GMG
Hardcore
IMG
Junker
CorsairBw
CorsairCo
Ku-Alliance
Ku-Civilian
Ku-CorpKishiro
Ku-Samura
Ku-Dragon
Ku-GC
Ku-Hogosha
Ku-KPT
Ku-Navy
Ku-Police
Li-Civilian
Li-Ageira
Li-DSE
Li-Interspace
Li-OSC
Li-QQ
Li-Synth
Li-Universal
Li-Hacker
Li-Hellfire
Li-LSF
Li-Navy
Li-Police
Li-Rogue
Li-Xenos
Nomad
Order
OutcastBw
OutcastCo
Pirate
Rh-Bundschuh
Rh-Civilian
Rh-ALG
Rh-Daumann
Rh-Kruger
Rh-Republican
Rh-Hessian
Rh-LWB
Rh-Military
Rh-MND
Rh-Police
Rh-Unioner
ZonerBw
ZonerCo

Removing the tags saves some typing and would make it easier to find things alphabeitcally. Someone who doesn't already know what fc and hs are suposed to mean will just get confused when trying to find a faction that starts with other letters than f or c.

But more than anything, making a line break after each restart does the trick to make things easier to find. It's longish but short enough to fit in the chat history. So it would be cool if this were possible.

(06-15-2018, 11:01 AM)Laz Wrote:
(06-15-2018, 10:46 AM)Karlotta Wrote: Apart from that, I'd also like to point out that most convenient restart does not mean "best impact" restart. If you show too much, you take the exploration aspect out of the game (good for vets but boring for noobs), and you also somewhat make people visit/trade to more places (spreads players out and reduces interactions).

If you do not like it, feel free to use the "hardcore" restart that doesn't give you a map. Just because you do not like something, doesn't mean other people shouldn't have it.

I'm just going to pretend I don't know why you're strawmaning me (and not Unseelie who asked for the same thing) so you can portray me as selfish, but explain it again for those who still didn't understand it.

It's not about what I or anyone else wants for myself/themselves, it's about the experience new people have when they decide whether they enjoy playing the mod or not. I don't want less things mapped because I enjoy mapping things I already know about, I want something that is a minor inconvenience to me, because it will gradually give me more people to play with over time, which I think we can agree is what this community needs the most. It's called a delayed gratification strategy, something that many people here unfortunately have a poor grasp of.

Removing parts of the restart maps may be a slight annoyance for vets who create multiple chars all the time, but having everything one needs mapped from the start takes away part of the reward of playing for noobs. Freelancer gameplay is based on character progression, and that's what people want and expect to get when they try out the mod for the first time. Someone who gets the feeling that they advanced their character every time they discover something new will have more fun playing because they continually get small rewards like this simply for flying around. If they get all the map they need from the start, they'll log on and off feeling like they've accomplished nothing, or very little, compared to what they were handed from the start. People who feel like they've accomplished something will be less likely to leave because they know that things will be easier for them now because of what they've accomplished, which they won't want to throw away. Having the map from the start is more convenient, but discovering new things gradually is more rewarding and thereby more gratifying.

And seriously, mapping stuff ain't that hard for a vet, and isnt even necessary if they know where everything is already. They also know about the interactive nav map more than noobs do. Mapping stuff you already know about is a very small price to pay in return for making the mod more fun in early gameplay so noobs actually keep playing, considering the development of the server population. I don't think more vets will leave because "omg I have a little less mapped on a new character" than noobs will leave because "meh boring and predictable and I feel I'm accomplishing nothing while playing".

Unseelie offered to do work to improve the mod, I'd be willing to assist, and possibly others are willing too. That shouldn't be wasted. I'd be willing to verify and compile restart-related problems that anyone who finds can tell, to add things I find, and gradualy update the restart files.

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Messages In This Thread
Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Unseelie - 06-15-2018, 04:03 AM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Kalhmera - 06-15-2018, 04:10 AM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Unseelie - 06-15-2018, 04:14 AM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Spectre - 06-15-2018, 04:37 AM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by DarkTails - 06-15-2018, 05:02 AM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Kazinsal - 06-15-2018, 05:58 AM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Sciamach - 06-15-2018, 08:25 AM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Karlotta - 06-15-2018, 10:46 AM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Laz - 06-15-2018, 11:01 AM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Karlotta - 06-15-2018, 02:38 PM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Ash - 06-15-2018, 03:42 PM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Karlotta - 06-15-2018, 04:04 PM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Laz - 06-15-2018, 04:10 PM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Karlotta - 06-15-2018, 04:29 PM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Unseelie - 06-15-2018, 10:56 PM
RE: Outcasts /restart can see inside corsair bases - by Ash - 06-16-2018, 08:15 AM

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