' Wrote:Akumabito, if you could point me at someone who switched their Outcast ships for equivalent Bounty Hunter vessels that would help immensely with the overhaul in the system being worked on. I would also appreciate you addressing my last post in depth, it is rather important to the issue as a whole.
Also, do you think that if people were offered subsidies to sell their BHG battlecruisers that might help curb the concern about the trading time they spent to buy them?
Sorry, you know I miss a lot of posts because usually I am answering 5 different people at once, some of those who post simply to flame, it makes it hard to answer everyone or treat everyone the way they treat me, better or worse.
I don't know anyone specifically who flies a BH BC because they were denied an outcast one, but I know I bought mine because it was the only non regulated cap worth a darn.
While it's true that in larger battles bombers rule all, if you are flying alone a BC is still a better choice, if you end up facing a couple GB's even with a single bomber opponent a single bomber will have a hard time while a BC will likely win. It's only when you have multiple bombers or fighters with mini razors that it fails, and in that scenario everything fails and it becomes whoever has the most people on their side that win. I fly everything from fighters to bombers to my BS (rarely) and the BH GB and BC have the best survivability across all scenarios in my experience.
Also fighter battles take forever (in part due to armor upgrades), and sometimes I don't want to fight for 45 minutes. I'd rather have 10 minutes of fun and get blown up sometimes, especially against multiple opponents and when you kill one and a couple minutes later a "new guy" shows up in a different ship.
If you pay people back for the cap ships, what are they going to use the money on? There's nothing to spend it on but caps once you get a bomber with a SN and codes, armor VIII and the rest, and that's maybe 50 mill.
What am I supposed to spend a billion on, especially if I just hop in the advanced train when nothing else is on the server? Start a clan (and all the grief even trying causes) when all the guard systems are already taken (they should have an extensive monthly maintenance fee as well but that's another subject)? Fly around with a level in the 90's just to look cool?
Now, I can tell you some servers, in the past, have offered buyable uber (or only slightly uber) items to keep people going, and that helps but it's no complete solution. Still, I think it would help (and also make people cheat more by spawning items). It's also more work for the admins.
There are some issues here for certain. New people show up, some don't want to jump into faction (or they do, but also fly inies as well, with 10 or more characters it's easy to be in several factions and still be an indie) but they do want to have fun. What else is there for them but a BH BC to chaise pirates in, or a GB to chase traders in, or both?
Another point I would make, if the server simply did away with caps, would the same issues remain? To some extent they would. Without balance in ships and items something will be better than the rest (or at least be perceived as better than the rest) and the same people flying BH BC's and OC Dessies now (and whoring in them) would be whoring in ravens claws with debilitators, nomads, a mini razor and nuke mines instead, and the factions would still be having to gang up on them.
That being said I think there are solutions that work, at least partially, and don't require the factions to go around pvp whoring people who fly cap ships.